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I’ve seen plenty of concern over citizens United and the unfair influence of money in politics, so you might want to broaden your sources. Your posts remind me

I’ve seen plenty of concern over citizens United and the unfair influence of money in politics, so you might want to broaden your sources. Your posts remind me of basically what Trump is saying, that evil things that other countries do are fine because we are hypocrites, or other countries attacking us is okay because it’s our fault we’re vulnerable.

jshevek 8y ago
I've never heard Trump say this. I would be happy to read any sources or analysis which supports your claim. Original: I’ve seen plenty of concern over citizens United and the unfair influence of money in politics, so you might want to broaden your sources. Your posts remind me of basically what Trump is saying, that evil things that other countries do are fine because we are hypocrites, or other countries attacking us is okay because it’s our fault we’re vulnerable.
- code_duck 8y ago
  I can easily back up what I said about trump. When asked about Putin and Russia killing people, he said the US killed many people (a very well known incident - do I need to google it for you?) When he spoke just a few days ago, he said that while Russia may have hacked the DNC, they also tried to hack the RNC and didn’t get in due to their superior defenses (which is incidentally false, they did get hacked). And, that it was the Democratic Party’s fault that they had weak protection. Again, a very well known incident analyzed on detail widely in our media - want me to google it for you? Ha, thanks for quoting me. Gosh, I promise not to edit. This is silly. Your post is pretty much advertising that you don’t know what you’re talking about, but you still down voted me and replied.
  - echochamberhn 8y ago
    Hillary lost. She was a shit candidate. Get over it.
  - jshevek 8y ago
    Neither of your subsequent characterizations of Trump's statements justifies the original claim you made. I'd be happy to read any supporting evidence which does so, without hyperbole or misrepresentation. "I can easily back up what I said about trump. When asked about Putin and Russia killing people, he said the US killed many people (a very well known incident - do I need to google it for you?) When he spoke just a few days ago, he said that while Russia may have hacked the DNC, they also tried to hack the RNC and didn’t get in due to their superior defenses (which is incidentally false, they did get hacked). And, that it was the Democratic Party’s fault that they had weak protection. Again, a very well known incident analyzed on detail widely in our media - want me to google it for you? Ha, thanks for quoting me. Gosh, I promise not to edit. This is silly. Your post is pretty much advertising that you don’t know what you’re talking about, but you still down voted me and replied."
    - code_duck 8y ago
      I have absolutely no idea why you think you need to quote me. I can’t even edit my responses at this point, and I do not back down from anything I say. Simply because you plead ignorance about plain facts is not persuasive. If you are confused about this, maybe you should do some research - Simply searching the keywords in my statements would easily supply the evidence that you claim doesn’t exist. It’s not my job to inform you. There’s a certain method of dispute on discussion forums like this where when someone sees facts that they dislike, they will insist that it has to be cited, from a source hey approve of course! Otherwise they will loudly insist that it is clearly false, because the other person didn’t take all the time to cut and paste a bunch of links and do web searches, as if this is a Wikipedia article or something. Nothing I posted is even remotely controversial, except perhaps to people who are firmly convinced of the opposite already. If you feel my statements contained hyperbole or misrepresentation, could you please clarify that? Because I’m not seeing any trace of that in what I said. In your statements, I just see flat denials without no content. In fact, you are misrepresenting the content and character of my statements.
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- code_duck 8y ago
  “He’s defended Putin’s authoritarian rule (“he’s a strong leader”) and, when asked about the murder of Putin opponents, said the United States has murdered people, too — much as Putin asserted in his interview with Chris Wallace” Supports my first point. From The Chicago Sun Times, with links: https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/president-donald-trump-russia-vladimir-putin-robert-mueller/ https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/president-donald-tru... And to support my second point, here you go: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/trump-russia-hack-democrats-dnc-722228 https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/trump-russia-hack-... “The DNC should be ashamed of themselves for allowing themselves to be hacked. They had bad defenses, and they were able to be hacked,” Trump said Almost verbatim what I said, isn’t it?

jshevek 8y ago

I've never heard Trump say this. I would be happy to read any sources or analysis which supports your claim. Original: I’ve seen plenty of concern over citizens United and the unfair influence of money in politics, so you might want to broaden your sources. Your posts remind me of basically what Trump is saying, that evil things that other countries do are fine because we are hypocrites, or other countries attacking us is okay because it’s our fault we’re vulnerable.

code_duck 8y ago
I can easily back up what I said about trump. When asked about Putin and Russia killing people, he said the US killed many people (a very well known incident - do I need to google it for you?) When he spoke just a few days ago, he said that while Russia may have hacked the DNC, they also tried to hack the RNC and didn’t get in due to their superior defenses (which is incidentally false, they did get hacked). And, that it was the Democratic Party’s fault that they had weak protection. Again, a very well known incident analyzed on detail widely in our media - want me to google it for you? Ha, thanks for quoting me. Gosh, I promise not to edit. This is silly. Your post is pretty much advertising that you don’t know what you’re talking about, but you still down voted me and replied.
- echochamberhn 8y ago
  Hillary lost. She was a shit candidate. Get over it.
- jshevek 8y ago
  Neither of your subsequent characterizations of Trump's statements justifies the original claim you made. I'd be happy to read any supporting evidence which does so, without hyperbole or misrepresentation. "I can easily back up what I said about trump. When asked about Putin and Russia killing people, he said the US killed many people (a very well known incident - do I need to google it for you?) When he spoke just a few days ago, he said that while Russia may have hacked the DNC, they also tried to hack the RNC and didn’t get in due to their superior defenses (which is incidentally false, they did get hacked). And, that it was the Democratic Party’s fault that they had weak protection. Again, a very well known incident analyzed on detail widely in our media - want me to google it for you? Ha, thanks for quoting me. Gosh, I promise not to edit. This is silly. Your post is pretty much advertising that you don’t know what you’re talking about, but you still down voted me and replied."
  - code_duck 8y ago
    I have absolutely no idea why you think you need to quote me. I can’t even edit my responses at this point, and I do not back down from anything I say. Simply because you plead ignorance about plain facts is not persuasive. If you are confused about this, maybe you should do some research - Simply searching the keywords in my statements would easily supply the evidence that you claim doesn’t exist. It’s not my job to inform you. There’s a certain method of dispute on discussion forums like this where when someone sees facts that they dislike, they will insist that it has to be cited, from a source hey approve of course! Otherwise they will loudly insist that it is clearly false, because the other person didn’t take all the time to cut and paste a bunch of links and do web searches, as if this is a Wikipedia article or something. Nothing I posted is even remotely controversial, except perhaps to people who are firmly convinced of the opposite already. If you feel my statements contained hyperbole or misrepresentation, could you please clarify that? Because I’m not seeing any trace of that in what I said. In your statements, I just see flat denials without no content. In fact, you are misrepresenting the content and character of my statements.
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code_duck 8y ago
“He’s defended Putin’s authoritarian rule (“he’s a strong leader”) and, when asked about the murder of Putin opponents, said the United States has murdered people, too — much as Putin asserted in his interview with Chris Wallace” Supports my first point. From The Chicago Sun Times, with links: https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/president-donald-trump-russia-vladimir-putin-robert-mueller/ https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/president-donald-tru... And to support my second point, here you go: https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/trump-russia-hack-democrats-dnc-722228 https://www.politico.com/story/2018/07/15/trump-russia-hack-... “The DNC should be ashamed of themselves for allowing themselves to be hacked. They had bad defenses, and they were able to be hacked,” Trump said Almost verbatim what I said, isn’t it?