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Dunno, but I shuddered to find "...the creation of a new government agency - Service NSW - supported by the Salesforce Service Cloud. ..." https://www.salesfo

Dunno, but I shuddered to find "...the creation of a new government agency - Service NSW - supported by the Salesforce Service Cloud. ..." https://www.salesforce.com/au/customer-success-stories/service-nsw/ https://www.salesforce.com/au/customer-success-stories/servi... I trust government with my private data, not Salesforce or any other corporation.

lbriner 8y ago
Governments don't store private data, corporations do! The only difference between government-fronted storage and direct-to-the-corporation like Salesforce is that corporations are mostly driven by profit and have slightly stronger reasons for protecting data to avoid losing your trust and money. Government motivation is mixed and changes over time.
- auslander 8y ago
  > ... stronger reasons for protecting data to avoid losing your trust and money Well, I'm not a customer to Salesforce, so they have no incentive to keep my trust and they get no money from me, but they can make money on my data, and likely would, why not?
dav43 8y ago
ASide note: they are using the google recaptca on the opt out site shows they have no idea about privacy for a government agency. So now google know everyone opting out I assume?
- gruez 8y ago
  theoretically they can, because they're running javascript on the page. but in practice I doubt it, just like I doubt that scripts from googleapis.com aren't backdooring your websites.
- auslander 8y ago
  Google knows everything, lol :) I'm actually afraid how much it knows, your searches, for once, tell it stuff you don't share with your wife. All your account's emails, drive files. Is your company uses Google? Is your kid's school uses Google? Have Android with location services on? Btw, in Android, you don't have option to restrict location data to an app while using the app, as you can in iOS. I'm about to create extensive guide on un-Googling yourself and your family. Mainly use Apple ecosystem, they make money selling you phones and macbooks, not your data. First thing is don't give Google any info to identify who is behind that browser, if you go to google.com directly. Use VPN to shuffle IPs, use only Private browsing windows (kills cookies), don't stay logged in to Google, don't use Chrome. Second, is to block tracking network requests from most of the websites to Google, like (googletagmanager.com, googletagservices.com, google-analytics.com, cloudflare.com) by using adblocker (uBlock Origin).

lbriner 8y ago

Governments don't store private data, corporations do! The only difference between government-fronted storage and direct-to-the-corporation like Salesforce is that corporations are mostly driven by profit and have slightly stronger reasons for protecting data to avoid losing your trust and money. Government motivation is mixed and changes over time.

auslander 8y ago
> ... stronger reasons for protecting data to avoid losing your trust and money Well, I'm not a customer to Salesforce, so they have no incentive to keep my trust and they get no money from me, but they can make money on my data, and likely would, why not?

dav43 8y ago

ASide note: they are using the google recaptca on the opt out site shows they have no idea about privacy for a government agency. So now google know everyone opting out I assume?

gruez 8y ago
theoretically they can, because they're running javascript on the page. but in practice I doubt it, just like I doubt that scripts from googleapis.com aren't backdooring your websites.
auslander 8y ago
Google knows everything, lol :) I'm actually afraid how much it knows, your searches, for once, tell it stuff you don't share with your wife. All your account's emails, drive files. Is your company uses Google? Is your kid's school uses Google? Have Android with location services on? Btw, in Android, you don't have option to restrict location data to an app while using the app, as you can in iOS. I'm about to create extensive guide on un-Googling yourself and your family. Mainly use Apple ecosystem, they make money selling you phones and macbooks, not your data. First thing is don't give Google any info to identify who is behind that browser, if you go to google.com directly. Use VPN to shuffle IPs, use only Private browsing windows (kills cookies), don't stay logged in to Google, don't use Chrome. Second, is to block tracking network requests from most of the websites to Google, like (googletagmanager.com, googletagservices.com, google-analytics.com, cloudflare.com) by using adblocker (uBlock Origin).