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Same. It's fine for Elon to disagree with someone. It's fine for anyone to disagree with anyone, frankly. It's not fine to disparage the hard work with such a

by joshmn 8y ago

Same. It's fine for Elon to disagree with someone. It's fine for anyone to disagree with anyone, frankly. It's not fine to disparage the hard work with such a tasteless and baseless accusation. I don't know how thin his skin is, but this hero will soon be just a moment in time; Elon will stick around. I'd hate to see what a balloon would do to Elon. I'm probably more irritated with Elon's comment than most people here because I know what a pedophile is. You probably don't want to know how I know either. If someone blatantly molested, caressed, or otherwise violated your middle school-aged son or daughter, you'd be livid. That's what Elon is so baselessly accusing this man of, for no reason other than because he didn't get to use his little toy on the big stage for all the world to see. Yes, there is a more general definition of pedophilia, but that definition is far lost on society. This isn't 2005 when gay "means" dumb.

67_45 8y ago
He responded to rudeness with rudeness. He spent money and suffered a PR black eye in an effort to help and this guy went on CNN and told Elon to shove the submarine up his ass. That is the absolute height of rudeness -- nobody has even mentioned it. And even worse, the British ex Pat justified his juvenile comment by basically saying that the submarine was I'll conceived and that it was all a PR stunt. Saying the sub wouldn't have worked doesn't make sense because it wouldn't make Elon a bad guy and it wouldn't be a reason to hate him. And saying that this all was a PR stunt is highly, highly insulting -- basically saying that he has no soul and is taking advantage of potentially the death of a dozen young boys simply to shore up his public image a little. That is a far worse accusation than "pedo." Just because the ex Pat is not famous doesn't excuse that kind of behaviour. And just because Elon is famous doesn't mean he isn't human or justified in responding in kind to this guy. And everyone is going to pile on me for being in the Elon cult and being an Elon fan boy and on and on. It's just the way I see it, I'm not in a cult or a fan club. Don't try to brush away the logic of my words with stupid shortcuts like those. He was asked to continue on the sub by people in the water. His efforts never obstructed or inhibited any of the other, main rescue efforts in any way. Whether or not the sub would have worked is irrelevant because it was simply presented to the rescuers as a last ditch option. This entire fixation with Elon musk and the sub and frankly everything involving Elon musk is insane. Everyone is rallying against the musk "fan boys" yet the landslide majority of people are on the anti-musk bandwagon everywhere I look. And by the way, a pedo is someone with the mental illness symptom of sexual attraction to children, not someone who has molested children. Sorry if you or someone you know got molested but it's not relevant. If you want to ban pedo jokes because you have PTSD that's an entirely different conversation.
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- isostatic 8y ago
  > He responded to rudeness with rudeness He responded to it with libel, I hope to see a large public apology and 8 figure settlement very soon
  - jexah 8y ago
    In a civil case (for libel), doesn't the statement have to be (basically) proven false? I.e. have some evidence that the statement is untrue, rather than lack of evidence of the statement being true? Isn't that basically impossible? What happened to the last 5 years with the far left labelling everybody they didn't agree with Nazis?
    - isostatic 8y ago
      Not sure about in the US, but this is a British diver who presumably would sue in British courts. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith-Smith_v_Williams https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith-Smith_v_Williams
  - 67_45 8y ago
    Can't come up with a substantive response so you mention it might be libel? An event that happens thousands of times per day on the internet unnoticed. It just reveals your emotional bias. You're filled with hate and you just want to see someone suffer

by joshmn 8y ago

67_45 8y ago

He responded to rudeness with rudeness. He spent money and suffered a PR black eye in an effort to help and this guy went on CNN and told Elon to shove the submarine up his ass. That is the absolute height of rudeness -- nobody has even mentioned it. And even worse, the British ex Pat justified his juvenile comment by basically saying that the submarine was I'll conceived and that it was all a PR stunt. Saying the sub wouldn't have worked doesn't make sense because it wouldn't make Elon a bad guy and it wouldn't be a reason to hate him. And saying that this all was a PR stunt is highly, highly insulting -- basically saying that he has no soul and is taking advantage of potentially the death of a dozen young boys simply to shore up his public image a little. That is a far worse accusation than "pedo." Just because the ex Pat is not famous doesn't excuse that kind of behaviour. And just because Elon is famous doesn't mean he isn't human or justified in responding in kind to this guy. And everyone is going to pile on me for being in the Elon cult and being an Elon fan boy and on and on. It's just the way I see it, I'm not in a cult or a fan club. Don't try to brush away the logic of my words with stupid shortcuts like those. He was asked to continue on the sub by people in the water. His efforts never obstructed or inhibited any of the other, main rescue efforts in any way. Whether or not the sub would have worked is irrelevant because it was simply presented to the rescuers as a last ditch option. This entire fixation with Elon musk and the sub and frankly everything involving Elon musk is insane. Everyone is rallying against the musk "fan boys" yet the landslide majority of people are on the anti-musk bandwagon everywhere I look. And by the way, a pedo is someone with the mental illness symptom of sexual attraction to children, not someone who has molested children. Sorry if you or someone you know got molested but it's not relevant. If you want to ban pedo jokes because you have PTSD that's an entirely different conversation.

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isostatic 8y ago
> He responded to rudeness with rudeness He responded to it with libel, I hope to see a large public apology and 8 figure settlement very soon
- jexah 8y ago
  In a civil case (for libel), doesn't the statement have to be (basically) proven false? I.e. have some evidence that the statement is untrue, rather than lack of evidence of the statement being true? Isn't that basically impossible? What happened to the last 5 years with the far left labelling everybody they didn't agree with Nazis?
  - isostatic 8y ago
    Not sure about in the US, but this is a British diver who presumably would sue in British courts. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith-Smith_v_Williams https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keith-Smith_v_Williams
- 67_45 8y ago
  Can't come up with a substantive response so you mention it might be libel? An event that happens thousands of times per day on the internet unnoticed. It just reveals your emotional bias. You're filled with hate and you just want to see someone suffer