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I haven't met anyone saying nice things about the missing ESC key... And the touchbar is too fiddly and situational to be useful, even to power users.

by keyle 8y ago

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systoll 8y ago
Apple's removal of the Escape key is courageously guiding its users into the superior Caps-lock-as-escape configuration.
- FPGAhacker 8y ago
  I prefer caps lock as control. Although for a while I ran in a hybrid mode where if I hit caps lock and released quickly it was escape. If I held it down and tapped another key it was control.
  - torstenvl 8y ago
    CapsLock -> Ctrl Ctrl -> ESC Force Quit key combination now has better physical locality. Profit!
  - laex 8y ago
    My config: Caps -> Control Control -> Command Perfect config for TMUX + VIM.
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innocentoldguy 8y ago
I’ve always set up my Caps Lock to be both an Esc and Ctrl key, so the touchbar change didn’t cause me any issues. Karabiner Elements is worth looking into if the virtual Esc key bothers you.
jiveturkey 8y ago
and yet the complainers are still buying them
- gonational 8y ago
  Not me :( I want a new one so bad, but I will not buy a TouchBar ever. Also, the reason for thumbprint readers on phones is that passcodes are difficult to quickly type on phones. On a notebook keyboard it’s easy. I don’t want a thumbprint reader on my notebook.
  - dewey 8y ago
    If you use a password manager and have to type in your master password every time you open it I could imagine it to be convenient.
  - sumedh 8y ago
    > I don’t want a thumbprint reader on my notebook. Have you used a thumbprint reader on a notebook. It so convenient that its hard going back to a notebook without one.
entee 8y ago
I have one of these in front of me now (been working on it for a little over a week, should have waited, d'oh!) and the virtual escape doesn't seem that big a deal. Even if my finger isn't quite on virtual key pretty much at all, but is in the middle of where the real escape key would be, it triggers "ESC".
- allwein 8y ago
  Go ahead and return it. Apple's pretty good about returns/exchanges after new product releases. I think you have 14 days from purchase to make an exchange, so hop on it if you really like the new systems.
  - entee 8y ago
    Sadly, don't think I can. It's the company's laptop, we put the order in after WWDC assuming it'd be a few months longer before updates, and for various reasons I didn't get to setting this particular one up until recently. We're sadly past the flip date, but honestly I'm pretty happy with it so far.

I haven't met anyone saying nice things about the missing ESC key... And the touchbar is too fiddly and situational to be useful, even to power users.

by keyle 8y ago

I haven't met anyone saying nice things about the missing ESC key... And the touchbar is too fiddly and situational to be useful, even to power users.

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systoll 8y ago

Apple's removal of the Escape key is courageously guiding its users into the superior Caps-lock-as-escape configuration.

FPGAhacker 8y ago
I prefer caps lock as control. Although for a while I ran in a hybrid mode where if I hit caps lock and released quickly it was escape. If I held it down and tapped another key it was control.
- torstenvl 8y ago
  CapsLock -> Ctrl Ctrl -> ESC Force Quit key combination now has better physical locality. Profit!
- laex 8y ago
  My config: Caps -> Control Control -> Command Perfect config for TMUX + VIM.
- deleted 8y ago
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innocentoldguy 8y ago

I’ve always set up my Caps Lock to be both an Esc and Ctrl key, so the touchbar change didn’t cause me any issues. Karabiner Elements is worth looking into if the virtual Esc key bothers you.

jiveturkey 8y ago

and yet the complainers are still buying them

gonational 8y ago
Not me :( I want a new one so bad, but I will not buy a TouchBar ever. Also, the reason for thumbprint readers on phones is that passcodes are difficult to quickly type on phones. On a notebook keyboard it’s easy. I don’t want a thumbprint reader on my notebook.
- dewey 8y ago
  If you use a password manager and have to type in your master password every time you open it I could imagine it to be convenient.
- sumedh 8y ago
  > I don’t want a thumbprint reader on my notebook. Have you used a thumbprint reader on a notebook. It so convenient that its hard going back to a notebook without one.

entee 8y ago

I have one of these in front of me now (been working on it for a little over a week, should have waited, d'oh!) and the virtual escape doesn't seem that big a deal. Even if my finger isn't quite on virtual key pretty much at all, but is in the middle of where the real escape key would be, it triggers "ESC".

allwein 8y ago
Go ahead and return it. Apple's pretty good about returns/exchanges after new product releases. I think you have 14 days from purchase to make an exchange, so hop on it if you really like the new systems.
- entee 8y ago
  Sadly, don't think I can. It's the company's laptop, we put the order in after WWDC assuming it'd be a few months longer before updates, and for various reasons I didn't get to setting this particular one up until recently. We're sadly past the flip date, but honestly I'm pretty happy with it so far.