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one interesting thing is that the BBS would have been impossible if the government hadn't forced AT&T to allow people to hook their own chosen devices into the
by donbright 8y ago
one interesting thing is that the BBS would have been impossible if the government hadn't forced AT&T to allow people to hook their own chosen devices into the telephone network.
In other words, in the old days, phones did not have a jack in the wall - AT&T came to your house and wired their network directly into your telephone. They did not want the RJ-45 jack which made consumer Modems possible. The government forced them to open up their network to other device makers, to competitors.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carterfone https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carterfone
I really wonder if the modern techno giants would be able to be regulated by the government if they became stagnant monopolies.
- pasbesoin 8y agoI remember using a 300 baud modem with an acoustic coupler (rubber-cupped cradle). After a while, that got swapped out for a electrically-connected/jacked 1200 baud modem. That also made "war dialing" practical. Not something I engaged in (kind of wish now that I'd been more "interesting"), but the business I was connecting to had to block an ex-employee a couple of times, who kept finding their dial-in number. Today's systems may be way faster and more "entertaining", in a mass sense. But I miss the old culture. Including the openness and exchange. If you were interested, and you weren't a jerk, people would bend over backwards to help you. And they enjoyed doing so -- well, most of them. Which is how I ended up on those first systems, anyway. I think a lot of people miss that culture. But, it just doesn't scale to the general population.
- isostatic 8y agoSurely people today have watched Wargames - Broderick used an acoustic coupler in his nefarious attempts to get into his classmate's pants
- pasbesoin 8y agoI was wondering about that, but I didn't update my post. Was there an acoustic hang-up signal? I've forgotten. Regardless, the 1200 baud modem, in addition to feeling like it was "keeping up" with the user, also made connecting more convenient.
- LeoPanthera 8y agoWhich, perhaps ironically, is a small plot hole in the movie. "Wardialing" is not possible with a coupler - since the computer has no ability to hang up, or dial. When using a coupler, you have to dial manually.
- kimdotcom 8y agoCould you not run a relay from thr parallel port and pulse dial?
- LeoPanthera 8y agoYeah, you could. But there’s no pulse dialing depicted in the movie.
- PhasmaFelis 8y ago> I think a lot of people miss that culture. But, it just doesn't scale to the general population. I think that's the crux of it. It worked because it wasn't instantly accessible to everyone. There was a certain minimum level of tech savvy, or at least intellectual curiosity, required. Most people were emotionally invested, at least a little, and that helped form strong communities. I love that the internet is so egalitarian, but I do miss the days when things were smaller and tighter-knit; when most services were run for love, not for money.
- kimdotcom 8y agoNitpick, RJ-11, but before that was a four-prong.
- orionblastar 8y agoI can confirm the four prong. My father installed phones. Had support for two lines black and yellow wires and red and green wires. Two wires per phone.
- icedchai 8y agoYep, can also confirm. My parents have a four-prong to RJ-11 adapter in their house, built in the 60's.
- q3k 8y agoSimilar story to the CCC Datenklo [1]. [1] - https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datenklo https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Datenklo
- PhasmaFelis 8y agoA strong point against the "deregulate everything" crowd, especially now with net neutrality under attack.
- exikyut 8y agoSo that's why early modems were accoustic couplers!! I never even questioned it. It was just "wow it's so old it just works that way."