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My 2016 23k Honda Civic can drive itself down the highway. Gas, break, stear - it can do it all on a clearly marked highway. As can Subarus and probably many ot

My 2016 23k Honda Civic can drive itself down the highway. Gas, break, stear - it can do it all on a clearly marked highway. As can Subarus and probably many others. I just know what my friends and coworkers have. Saying no car maker has shipped anything is a blatent lie.

CPLX 8y ago
For that to happen does that 2016 Honda Civic have to have a driver in it? That's how you can tell if it's driverless.
- taneq 8y ago
  You don't have to have ubiquitous Turing-test-passing level 5+ robot vehicles. Lane Keep Assist style things are a good start.
  - blattimwind 8y ago
    Lane assist is unimpressive, requirements, technology and capability wise. Also, a fourteen year old can do it from the passenger seat. (Also they don't really work reliably: try using lane assist with roadworks markings and watch your car veer off into the barricades. Or just too-unclear-for-machine—but-blatantly-obvious-for-human markings, like the dead Tesla driver from a few weeks ago encountered. Even a fourteen year old doesn't make that sort of mistake.)
sixstringtheory 8y ago
What kind of highway? We have a 2016 Outback with EyeSight and basically never use it. Lane keeping beeps for every line of tar sealant on the road. Adaptive cruise control puts the pedal to the metal once it's 2 MPH lower than the set speed. Like, I don't want the engine to rev to 8K RPM while I'm going uphill, alright? Has nobody heard of an easing curve?
- allannienhuis 8y ago
  Sounds like just a really poor implementation. My 2011 BMW does all of those things really well. I'd have hoped that safety systems like this wouldn't fall into the 'you get what you pay for' category, but I guess that's the case. Not sure how to address that except through more regulation which doesn't exactly help on the innovation front...
  - ghaff 8y ago
    For another perspective though, my dad got Mobileye on a new Outback recently and he really likes it.

CPLX 8y ago

For that to happen does that 2016 Honda Civic have to have a driver in it? That's how you can tell if it's driverless.

taneq 8y ago
You don't have to have ubiquitous Turing-test-passing level 5+ robot vehicles. Lane Keep Assist style things are a good start.
- blattimwind 8y ago
  Lane assist is unimpressive, requirements, technology and capability wise. Also, a fourteen year old can do it from the passenger seat. (Also they don't really work reliably: try using lane assist with roadworks markings and watch your car veer off into the barricades. Or just too-unclear-for-machine—but-blatantly-obvious-for-human markings, like the dead Tesla driver from a few weeks ago encountered. Even a fourteen year old doesn't make that sort of mistake.)

sixstringtheory 8y ago

What kind of highway? We have a 2016 Outback with EyeSight and basically never use it. Lane keeping beeps for every line of tar sealant on the road. Adaptive cruise control puts the pedal to the metal once it's 2 MPH lower than the set speed. Like, I don't want the engine to rev to 8K RPM while I'm going uphill, alright? Has nobody heard of an easing curve?

allannienhuis 8y ago
Sounds like just a really poor implementation. My 2011 BMW does all of those things really well. I'd have hoped that safety systems like this wouldn't fall into the 'you get what you pay for' category, but I guess that's the case. Not sure how to address that except through more regulation which doesn't exactly help on the innovation front...
- ghaff 8y ago
  For another perspective though, my dad got Mobileye on a new Outback recently and he really likes it.