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I thought the US A didn't tend to use IQ tests for a number of reasons, also IQ tests are gameable. Also the liberal use of the word debt in the article worrie

I thought the US A didn't tend to use IQ tests for a number of reasons, also IQ tests are gameable. Also the liberal use of the word debt in the article worries me in the UK there have been a number of scandals where PE buys a company loads it with debt and flogs it to some dozy fund mangers and a few years later it all collapses - Debenhams is one example

nyolfen 8y ago
if you can game raven’s progressive matrices i’d love to see what that even means
- walshemj 8y ago
  Practice lots of practice
  - bradlys 8y ago
    Not even that much. Once I knew what those specific matrices were and how they are usually made, it was so much more straight forward. Immediately crushed all of those.
bradleyjg 8y ago
> I thought the US A didn't tend to use IQ tests for a number of reason Any employment requirement that produces a disparate impact has to be proven to be reasonably related to job performance. In practice, that probably means some kind of validation study tailored to each specific job catagory. That’s expensive.
jldugger 8y ago
> I thought the US A didn't tend to use IQ tests for a number of reasons, also IQ tests are gameable. The primary reason is that protected minorities score lower than average on IQ tests; without a legitimate business reason to set an IQ cutoff, you can be sued for discriminatory hiring. And because IQ is so granular, you don't want to argue in court that 1 point is a business necessity when you set a threshold of 110, and you reject a minority candidate with a 109 score.
- lotsofpulp 8y ago
  Which college someone went to serves as a decent proxy for min IQ (assuming SAT scores correlate with IQ).
  - Simon_says 8y ago
    That stops working when minority candidates are admitted with lower SAT scores.
  - walshemj 8y ago
    So how come the ones that seem to do well on visa's test come from less stellar backgrounds.
  - jldugger 8y ago
    But it's a binary decision -- do they have a degree or not?
walshemj 8y ago
Not sure why I got marked down here the Debenhams PE issue I mentioned was reported with more negative slant by the Daily Telegraph (a Right Wing Paper) in its business section.

nyolfen 8y ago

if you can game raven’s progressive matrices i’d love to see what that even means

walshemj 8y ago
Practice lots of practice
- bradlys 8y ago
  Not even that much. Once I knew what those specific matrices were and how they are usually made, it was so much more straight forward. Immediately crushed all of those.

bradleyjg 8y ago

> I thought the US A didn't tend to use IQ tests for a number of reason Any employment requirement that produces a disparate impact has to be proven to be reasonably related to job performance. In practice, that probably means some kind of validation study tailored to each specific job catagory. That’s expensive.

jldugger 8y ago

> I thought the US A didn't tend to use IQ tests for a number of reasons, also IQ tests are gameable. The primary reason is that protected minorities score lower than average on IQ tests; without a legitimate business reason to set an IQ cutoff, you can be sued for discriminatory hiring. And because IQ is so granular, you don't want to argue in court that 1 point is a business necessity when you set a threshold of 110, and you reject a minority candidate with a 109 score.

lotsofpulp 8y ago
Which college someone went to serves as a decent proxy for min IQ (assuming SAT scores correlate with IQ).
- Simon_says 8y ago
  That stops working when minority candidates are admitted with lower SAT scores.
- walshemj 8y ago
  So how come the ones that seem to do well on visa's test come from less stellar backgrounds.
- jldugger 8y ago
  But it's a binary decision -- do they have a degree or not?

walshemj 8y ago

Not sure why I got marked down here the Debenhams PE issue I mentioned was reported with more negative slant by the Daily Telegraph (a Right Wing Paper) in its business section.