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Wow, a left-of-center party more worried about change from within than they are about losing the election to the right. What a bizarre and unprecedented thing.

Wow, a left-of-center party more worried about change from within than they are about losing the election to the right. What a bizarre and unprecedented thing. Thankfully that could never happen in my home country, the USA.

user982 8y ago
It helps that you do not have a real left-of-center party to begin with.
- shanghaiaway 8y ago
  All political parties in the US are basically communist
  - dang 8y ago
    Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News?
- Sharlin 8y ago
  I presume the GP was being sarcastic and referred to Clinton vs Sanders.
- alecco 8y ago
  Democrats turned hard left, recently. Sure, on banal stuff like identity politics while keeping ties with Goldman Sachs & co.
mschuster91 8y ago
> Wow, a left-of-center party more worried about change from within than they are about losing the election to the right. Being honorless to their ideals is actually something Social Democrats have a proven history - the German ones for example allowed the war bonds prior to WW1, prior to WW2 the SD leadership lacked the guts to oppose Hitler ("Preußenschlag", and a total underestimation of Hitler in the last months until the Machtergreifung), and modern Social Democrats went full scale neoliberal (most famously they gutted social security with the Hartz IV reforms). As a result, the neo-nazis of the AfD are the second most powerful party in both federal and bavarian polls, sharing the position with the Social Democrats...
Redoubts 8y ago
Ha ha ha... oh.
frabbit 8y ago
Labour is a party that since the Kinnock purges of the 1980s only retained a rump of what could be described as `left-wing` and a majority that whole-heartedly embraced neo-liberal economics. Since the democratic upheaval within Labour (resulting from hundreds of thousands of people joining) this Blair/Brown appartus is being ousted -- and that`s why they are doing these sorts of things. They hate and fear socialist policies, even the watered-down ones advocated by Corbyn and McDonnell. There`s no point in winning an election if you become right-wing to do it.

user982 8y ago

It helps that you do not have a real left-of-center party to begin with.

shanghaiaway 8y ago
All political parties in the US are basically communist
- dang 8y ago
  Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News?
Sharlin 8y ago
I presume the GP was being sarcastic and referred to Clinton vs Sanders.
alecco 8y ago
Democrats turned hard left, recently. Sure, on banal stuff like identity politics while keeping ties with Goldman Sachs & co.

mschuster91 8y ago

> Wow, a left-of-center party more worried about change from within than they are about losing the election to the right. Being honorless to their ideals is actually something Social Democrats have a proven history - the German ones for example allowed the war bonds prior to WW1, prior to WW2 the SD leadership lacked the guts to oppose Hitler ("Preußenschlag", and a total underestimation of Hitler in the last months until the Machtergreifung), and modern Social Democrats went full scale neoliberal (most famously they gutted social security with the Hartz IV reforms). As a result, the neo-nazis of the AfD are the second most powerful party in both federal and bavarian polls, sharing the position with the Social Democrats...

Redoubts 8y ago

Ha ha ha... oh.

frabbit 8y ago

Labour is a party that since the Kinnock purges of the 1980s only retained a rump of what could be described as `left-wing` and a majority that whole-heartedly embraced neo-liberal economics. Since the democratic upheaval within Labour (resulting from hundreds of thousands of people joining) this Blair/Brown appartus is being ousted -- and that`s why they are doing these sorts of things. They hate and fear socialist policies, even the watered-down ones advocated by Corbyn and McDonnell. There`s no point in winning an election if you become right-wing to do it.