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Right behind France and it’s Parisian suburbs, no monsieur?

by ende 8y ago

wozniacki 8y ago
Absolutely. Segregation is probably a more chronic problem there than it is or was ever here. But Saint-Denis is not a rich neighborhood. It's what the French call a "banlieue." Literally translated, the word means "suburb," but it has come to be associated with the depressed, mostly immigrant neighborhoods on the outskirts of the city where unemployment is high and opportunity scarce. "If you look at the situation of people, you understand the path they have taken to become a terrorist or whatever you call it," Villain told CBS News correspondent Vladmir Duthiers. "Exclusion makes the terrorist, in my opinion." . . . The French government does not keep statistics based on race or religion, but surveys have found unemployment is as high as 30 percent in these immigrant neighborhoods.[1] [1] Les Banlieues: Searching for the seeds of terror https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paris-banlieues-seeds-of-terror-isis/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paris-banlieues-seeds-of-terror...
- dnomad 8y ago
  I wonder if you've ever even been to Saint-Denis? Segregation in France is absolutely nothing like what you see in America where, outside three or four major cities, different races, no matter how rich or poor, are absolutely cordoned off from one another and do not ever attend the same schools [1]. If you actually go to Saint-Denis you will find everything from Russian Jews to Moroccan Muslims to Nigerians to good ol' fashioned ("from before Napoleon took over the world") French families. It's an extremely diverse hood, the kind you'd only saw 30 years ago in America's largest cities. [1] https://www.vox.com/2018/3/5/17080218/school-segregation-getting-worse-data https://www.vox.com/2018/3/5/17080218/school-segregation-get... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/16/segregation-us-neighborhoods-reasons https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/16/segreg...
- rdlecler1 8y ago
  I saw a study a couple years back remarking on how job applicants without french last names would have far fewer call backs.

Right behind France and it’s Parisian suburbs, no monsieur?

by ende 8y ago

Right behind France and it’s Parisian suburbs, no monsieur?

Absolutely. Segregation is probably a more chronic problem there than it is or was ever here. But Saint-Denis is not a rich neighborhood. It's what the French call a "banlieue." Literally translated, the word means "suburb," but it has come to be associated with the depressed, mostly immigrant neighborhoods on the outskirts of the city where unemployment is high and opportunity scarce. "If you look at the situation of people, you understand the path they have taken to become a terrorist or whatever you call it," Villain told CBS News correspondent Vladmir Duthiers. "Exclusion makes the terrorist, in my opinion." . . . The French government does not keep statistics based on race or religion, but surveys have found unemployment is as high as 30 percent in these immigrant neighborhoods.[1] [1] Les Banlieues: Searching for the seeds of terror https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paris-banlieues-seeds-of-terror-isis/ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/paris-banlieues-seeds-of-terror...

dnomad 8y ago
I wonder if you've ever even been to Saint-Denis? Segregation in France is absolutely nothing like what you see in America where, outside three or four major cities, different races, no matter how rich or poor, are absolutely cordoned off from one another and do not ever attend the same schools [1]. If you actually go to Saint-Denis you will find everything from Russian Jews to Moroccan Muslims to Nigerians to good ol' fashioned ("from before Napoleon took over the world") French families. It's an extremely diverse hood, the kind you'd only saw 30 years ago in America's largest cities. [1] https://www.vox.com/2018/3/5/17080218/school-segregation-getting-worse-data https://www.vox.com/2018/3/5/17080218/school-segregation-get... [2] https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/16/segregation-us-neighborhoods-reasons https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/16/segreg...
rdlecler1 8y ago
I saw a study a couple years back remarking on how job applicants without french last names would have far fewer call backs.