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Kind of a weird argument that nobody wants to take the bus or the train because it's too crowded. Very Berra.

by ebikelaw 8y ago

lozenge 8y ago
It just means there aren't enough bus routes or busses on the route.
- cozzyd 8y ago
  Or the buses are too slow because there's too many cars in the way.
- taeric 8y ago
  Me thinks you missed the joke. Being that enough people take it so that it is crowded, but the claim is essentially nobody is taking it.
runarberg 8y ago
Take the Sound Transit 550. It is the main (only direct?) busline between downtown Seattle and Bellevue. During rush hour it comes at an interval of 10 - 15 min. The bus it self is a double wagon (with an accordion connection), it fits maybe (beware I'm pulling this figure from thin air) 50 people. It is always crowded with people standing back to front. During these 10 - 15 minutes one can only imagine how many people cross on the motorway between these places in their private cars. So it is accurate (although it sounds like a contradiction) to say that *"Nobody wants to take the bus because it is too crowded".
- ulfw 8y ago
  10-15 mins is a loooong wait during rush hour. Subways come every 2 mins in Hong Kong at that time. There's no reason (besides Seattle not wanting to spend the money obviously) not to bring down those times to say 2-5 minutes and tripling to quadrupling the amount of buses on said route.
- wool_gather 8y ago
  50 is too low for an articulated bus. Including standing room, but not at sardine levels, you should at least be getting close to 90.
  - stephengillie 8y ago
    The bus has 50 seats, and standing room for maybe 20-25. This includes having 1-2 people standing unsafely on the swivel plate in the middle of the bus. One of the issues in general with increasing Seattle-Bellevue throughput is having to bridge the lake. I-90 traded a separate bridge of dedicated express lanes, for HOV lanes combined with other traffic - so the under construction Link light rail can use that separate bridge. 520 is another option, but there's a toll since they just replaced the narrow 2-lane pontoon bridge with 4-lane highway that's suspended higher above the water.
  - runarberg 8y ago
    Regardless, 50 - 90 people every 10 - 15 minutes. I’m sure this number is dwarfed by the number of people that travel the same route over the same bridges in less time, more comfortably in their private cars.
- cozzyd 8y ago
  A full articulated bus generally has a capacity of over 100 people.
- lostlogin 8y ago
  > The bus it self is a double wagon (with an accordion connection), it fits maybe (beware I'm pulling this figure from thin air) 50 people. Are there places that don’t call these a ‘bendy bus’? They are missing out on a great name.

Kind of a weird argument that nobody wants to take the bus or the train because it's too crowded. Very Berra.

lozenge 8y ago

It just means there aren't enough bus routes or busses on the route.

cozzyd 8y ago
Or the buses are too slow because there's too many cars in the way.
taeric 8y ago
Me thinks you missed the joke. Being that enough people take it so that it is crowded, but the claim is essentially nobody is taking it.

runarberg 8y ago

Take the Sound Transit 550. It is the main (only direct?) busline between downtown Seattle and Bellevue. During rush hour it comes at an interval of 10 - 15 min. The bus it self is a double wagon (with an accordion connection), it fits maybe (beware I'm pulling this figure from thin air) 50 people. It is always crowded with people standing back to front. During these 10 - 15 minutes one can only imagine how many people cross on the motorway between these places in their private cars. So it is accurate (although it sounds like a contradiction) to say that *"Nobody wants to take the bus because it is too crowded".

ulfw 8y ago
10-15 mins is a loooong wait during rush hour. Subways come every 2 mins in Hong Kong at that time. There's no reason (besides Seattle not wanting to spend the money obviously) not to bring down those times to say 2-5 minutes and tripling to quadrupling the amount of buses on said route.
wool_gather 8y ago
50 is too low for an articulated bus. Including standing room, but not at sardine levels, you should at least be getting close to 90.
- stephengillie 8y ago
  The bus has 50 seats, and standing room for maybe 20-25. This includes having 1-2 people standing unsafely on the swivel plate in the middle of the bus. One of the issues in general with increasing Seattle-Bellevue throughput is having to bridge the lake. I-90 traded a separate bridge of dedicated express lanes, for HOV lanes combined with other traffic - so the under construction Link light rail can use that separate bridge. 520 is another option, but there's a toll since they just replaced the narrow 2-lane pontoon bridge with 4-lane highway that's suspended higher above the water.
- runarberg 8y ago
  Regardless, 50 - 90 people every 10 - 15 minutes. I’m sure this number is dwarfed by the number of people that travel the same route over the same bridges in less time, more comfortably in their private cars.
cozzyd 8y ago
A full articulated bus generally has a capacity of over 100 people.
lostlogin 8y ago
> The bus it self is a double wagon (with an accordion connection), it fits maybe (beware I'm pulling this figure from thin air) 50 people. Are there places that don’t call these a ‘bendy bus’? They are missing out on a great name.