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Try jquery. BTW, it's not so much that ajax is "hard" without a framework. The problem is with the varying ways different browsers implement javascript and the

Try jquery. BTW, it's not so much that ajax is "hard" without a framework. The problem is with the varying ways different browsers implement javascript and the DOM. A good framework (like jquery) abstracts away many of these variations and allows you to concentrate on the more interesting hard problems.

menloparkbum 19y ago
+1 for jquery, and for the comment suggesting the javascript book. Javascript and DOM quirks are probably the biggest stumbling blocks if you are already a decent programmer. Douglas Crockford's videos are also worth watching, if you have the time. http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/ http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/
- tlrobinson 19y ago
  +1 for Crockford's lectures. And his website: http://www.crockford.com/javascript/ http://www.crockford.com/javascript/ He's got a new book coming out soon too. I haven't seen it yet, but I imagine it will be pretty good. "Javascript: The Definitive Guide" (published by O'Reilly) is a good resource as well.
wenbert 19y ago
I agree with jQuery. I dove into ajax a few years back using core JS. Then my friend recommend jQuery. Whatever it is that you are trying to do using core JS, jQuery should be able to handle it. jQuery is fast, and makes your code really short. I suggest you go straight to jQuery and save time. You will eventually "get" the fundamentals once you get the hang of it. i recommend visualjquery.com
wheels 19y ago
I found myself asking the same question as the poster a couple weeks back. I ended up starting with Dojo, which I was surprised to see didn't get a mention here at all, rather than jQuery. Out of curiosity, did anyone here compare the two and choose jQuery or is jQuery just more established?
tlrobinson 18y ago
jQuery seems nice, but I would recommend learning pure JavaScript and DOM first. Sometimes its helpful to understand what's going on underneath the higher level abstractions (which is the same reason I recommend learning C and maybe even some assembly)

menloparkbum 19y ago

+1 for jquery, and for the comment suggesting the javascript book. Javascript and DOM quirks are probably the biggest stumbling blocks if you are already a decent programmer. Douglas Crockford's videos are also worth watching, if you have the time. http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/ http://developer.yahoo.com/yui/theater/

tlrobinson 19y ago
+1 for Crockford's lectures. And his website: http://www.crockford.com/javascript/ http://www.crockford.com/javascript/ He's got a new book coming out soon too. I haven't seen it yet, but I imagine it will be pretty good. "Javascript: The Definitive Guide" (published by O'Reilly) is a good resource as well.

wenbert 19y ago

I agree with jQuery. I dove into ajax a few years back using core JS. Then my friend recommend jQuery. Whatever it is that you are trying to do using core JS, jQuery should be able to handle it. jQuery is fast, and makes your code really short. I suggest you go straight to jQuery and save time. You will eventually "get" the fundamentals once you get the hang of it. i recommend visualjquery.com

wheels 19y ago

I found myself asking the same question as the poster a couple weeks back. I ended up starting with Dojo, which I was surprised to see didn't get a mention here at all, rather than jQuery. Out of curiosity, did anyone here compare the two and choose jQuery or is jQuery just more established?

tlrobinson 18y ago

jQuery seems nice, but I would recommend learning pure JavaScript and DOM first. Sometimes its helpful to understand what's going on underneath the higher level abstractions (which is the same reason I recommend learning C and maybe even some assembly)