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So now we'll have weekend "hackers" downloading this open source software, tweaking it, and hurling their cars down the road at high speed. Great. The system a

by 21 8y ago

So now we'll have weekend "hackers" downloading this open source software, tweaking it, and hurling their cars down the road at high speed. Great. The system also seems to have a single front facing camera. How will this detect for example a cyclist riding along the car and prevent the car from turning into him?

xedeon 8y ago
You seem to have pretty strong opinions without even actually taking the time to look into comma.ai and how it works. All it takes is 5 minutes to know that it actually uses the built-in safety systems in cars like ADAS, LKAS, ACC. Hence, they only support only specific make/models. It's not just the "single front facing camera".
- qznc 8y ago
  None of these built-in safety systems is design to work without a human driver having the actual responsibility. This is why e.g. ACC is a "comfort" system but not a "safety" system. Even systems like AEB don't come with a guarantee. They just might help.
  - xedeon 8y ago
    >None of these built-in safety systems is design to work without a human driver having the actual responsibility You are exactly right! which is why NEITHER comma.ai, Tesla's Autopilot, Nissan's Propilot, and GM Supercruise are being marketed as such i.e. only as L2/Partial Automation at the moment.
- alkonaut 8y ago
  But cars that have any cameras likely already have a front facing one. So if they support only cars that have other cameras it can use (and assuming now that autonomous driving requires camera/or lidar view) why do they even need the camera? Did he drive that civic autonomously without lidars and without it knowing what’s behind it?
  - xedeon 8y ago
    First, lidar is not a silver bullet and are still very cost prohibitive. Look at Mobileye and Supercruise which are both pretty good and only use radar, cameras and HD maps. Second the camera is for the vision system and comma.ai hooks in the car via CANBUS to interpret the OEM radar signals.

by 21 8y ago

xedeon 8y ago

You seem to have pretty strong opinions without even actually taking the time to look into comma.ai and how it works. All it takes is 5 minutes to know that it actually uses the built-in safety systems in cars like ADAS, LKAS, ACC. Hence, they only support only specific make/models. It's not just the "single front facing camera".

qznc 8y ago
None of these built-in safety systems is design to work without a human driver having the actual responsibility. This is why e.g. ACC is a "comfort" system but not a "safety" system. Even systems like AEB don't come with a guarantee. They just might help.
- xedeon 8y ago
  >None of these built-in safety systems is design to work without a human driver having the actual responsibility You are exactly right! which is why NEITHER comma.ai, Tesla's Autopilot, Nissan's Propilot, and GM Supercruise are being marketed as such i.e. only as L2/Partial Automation at the moment.
alkonaut 8y ago
But cars that have any cameras likely already have a front facing one. So if they support only cars that have other cameras it can use (and assuming now that autonomous driving requires camera/or lidar view) why do they even need the camera? Did he drive that civic autonomously without lidars and without it knowing what’s behind it?
- xedeon 8y ago
  First, lidar is not a silver bullet and are still very cost prohibitive. Look at Mobileye and Supercruise which are both pretty good and only use radar, cameras and HD maps. Second the camera is for the vision system and comma.ai hooks in the car via CANBUS to interpret the OEM radar signals.