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If this is what a founder of WeWork is focusing on, I can't wait til they IPO so I can short it. I doubt this company survives the next recession. As for lives
by qubax 8y ago
If this is what a founder of WeWork is focusing on, I can't wait til they IPO so I can short it. I doubt this company survives the next recession.
As for livestock vs vegetation being better or worse for the environment, it isn't a contest. Farming is many times worse for the environment than raising animals. Has any of these useless journalists, CEOs and crazy vegans ever stepped on a farm? Do they understand what is involved in farming? To farm, you do your darnedest to pretty much wiped out all animals from insects to rabbits to coyotes to large herd animals to protect your farm. And if the world were to go vegan, we'd have to cut down every rich forest ( amazon to the jungles of southeast asia and africa ) to provide farmland for vegetables. Whereas wheat, soy and corn that we feed livestock can grow in harsher temperatures, most vegetables we eat cannot. Also goats, pigs, etc can forage on weed and other "pest" vegetation in harsh climates.
Also, farming kills 1000 times more animal than raising livestock. These vegans are so insane that they think vegetables fall from the heavens like manna. Nope. An incredible amount of insects and small rodents/mammals are killed prior to planting and during harvest. That's right, every salad, every fruit and every meal that you eat contains some animal.
https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/but-not-simpler/i-hate-to-break-it-to-you-but-you-already-eat-bugs/ https://blogs.scientificamerican.com/but-not-simpler/i-hate-...
I am so sick of the vegan nonsense. It's not based on fact, reality or common sense. It's just agenda pushing virtue signaling where people pretend to be morally superior for nothing.
More animal lives perished for a vegans salad than a carnivore's steak. And a vegan eating a salad is actually eating more animals than a carnivore eating a steak.
So morally speaking, a meat eater has the upper hand if you think all animal lives matter.
But maybe we should listen to a dumb city dwelling vegan who has never set foot on a farm. Lets wipe out forests and cultivate the land for farming. We'll wipe tens of trillions of animals in the process. And that's before dousing the farmland and vegetation with pesticides, petrochemicals, etc. But vegan feels over reality right according to the lazy journalist and the agenda pushing CEOs and corporations.
Or do cow, pig, chicken lives matter more than insect and small mammals?
Are the thousands of lives lost for a single salad meal worth a single cow's life that could produce a thousand meals?
Edit: Downvoted? I guess vegans don't like science. Maybe you are more of a huffpost crowd.
https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/05/02/bugs-in-food_n_1467694.html https://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/05/02/bugs-in-food_n_1467...
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/11581770/Hair-aphids-and-bugs-the-horrifying-stuff-we-unwittingly-eat.html https://www.telegraph.co.uk/foodanddrink/11581770/Hair-aphid...
Downvote all you want. Vegans eat more animals than a carnivore. In case you were wondering, insects are animals.
- shadunkle 8y agoCurrently the number one cause of Amazon rainforest loss is cattle ranching. Animal agriculture is worse for the environment than plant agriculture. There are numerous studies to support this, here's one, [1]. It is true that animal products at times use land that cannot be well utilized for most plants. But many studies, such as [2], show that this land is unnecessary to feed the world. A vegan diet uses the least amount of land, and excess land can either be utilized for other purposes or returned to nature. Of course there are certain parts of the world which have different capacities to grow different foods, so what I have written is true as a general rule it is not true of literally every location. It is also true that a vegan diet does kill animals. Though, it kills the fewest animals, even considering field mice and insects killed in the farming process. See [3]. [1] Livestock's Long Shadow - http://www.fao.org/docrep/010/a0701e/a0701e00.HTM http://www.fao.org/docrep/010/a0701e/a0701e00.HTM [2] Carrying capacity of U.S. agricultural land: Ten diet scenarios - https://www.elementascience.org/articles/10.12952/journal.elementa.000116/ https://www.elementascience.org/articles/10.12952/journal.el... [3] Number of Animals Killed to Produce One Million Calories in Eight Food Categories - http://www.animalvisuals.org/projects/data/1mc/ http://www.animalvisuals.org/projects/data/1mc/
- teaneedz 8y agoYour rant is missing lots of facts my friend. Most vegans by definition are ethically against the abuse of today's scaled animal agriculture farming techniques. This isn't a perfect world, but most people are either unaware or choose to be disconnected from how farm animals are regularly abused. All lives matter, but come on, let's not discredit the routine torture taking place on such animals. It's not sustainable and is ethically wrong to most people who come face to face with it. Defending animal agriculture is outdated and simply on the wrong side of history. Any online search can pull up why more people are looking into vegetarianism and why demand is increasing for vegan options. Anyone can try and defend scaled animal agriculture, but the world is moving speedily beyond that.