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Hacker news has sadly become more like Reddit. "Wrongthink" or questions will be down voted to preserve the narrative, even if it is a legitimate question or in

Hacker news has sadly become more like Reddit. "Wrongthink" or questions will be down voted to preserve the narrative, even if it is a legitimate question or interest

freehunter 8y ago
>even if it is a legitimate question or interest Perhaps, but you and I both know this is not a legitimate question or interest. It's a talking point used to deflect blame.
- SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
  I asked the question, was the information released wrong or fake. Was it? Because if it's not wrong or fake, and it's damaging - none of that blame lies with the creators and only with the publisher? That seems odd.
  - freehunter 8y ago
    You're deliberately missing the point and watering down the argument, and you know it. That question is not asked in good faith, it is not asked to start a conversation, it is asked only to obfuscate the truth and cause trouble. The only thing that matters is, has US law enforcement conducted investigations, and of those investigations, which ones have produced evidence of actual crimes having been committed? Your whataboutism doesn't change anything. It doesn't uncommit the crimes, it doesn't rescind the indictments, and it doesn't reverse the guilty pleas. US law enforcement has found evidence of crimes and some of those criminals have pled guilty. Some of them are sitting in jail right now. Sorry, what was your question again? Because what I heard you ask was "why are the admitted criminals in jail and not the victims?"
    - dang 8y ago
      Would you please stop posting uncivilly like this? We have to ban accounts that do this, regardless of what positions they're arguing for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - dragonwriter 8y ago
    > I asked the question, was the information released wrong or fake. Was it? Yes, the information presented to the American public as part of the (still ongoing) Russian political influence operation aimed at destabilizing the US has often been, and continues to often be, both “wrong” and “fake”.

Hacker news has sadly become more like Reddit. "Wrongthink" or questions will be down voted to preserve the narrative, even if it is a legitimate question or interest

freehunter 8y ago

>even if it is a legitimate question or interest Perhaps, but you and I both know this is not a legitimate question or interest. It's a talking point used to deflect blame.

SlowRobotAhead 8y ago
I asked the question, was the information released wrong or fake. Was it? Because if it's not wrong or fake, and it's damaging - none of that blame lies with the creators and only with the publisher? That seems odd.
- freehunter 8y ago
  You're deliberately missing the point and watering down the argument, and you know it. That question is not asked in good faith, it is not asked to start a conversation, it is asked only to obfuscate the truth and cause trouble. The only thing that matters is, has US law enforcement conducted investigations, and of those investigations, which ones have produced evidence of actual crimes having been committed? Your whataboutism doesn't change anything. It doesn't uncommit the crimes, it doesn't rescind the indictments, and it doesn't reverse the guilty pleas. US law enforcement has found evidence of crimes and some of those criminals have pled guilty. Some of them are sitting in jail right now. Sorry, what was your question again? Because what I heard you ask was "why are the admitted criminals in jail and not the victims?"
  - dang 8y ago
    Would you please stop posting uncivilly like this? We have to ban accounts that do this, regardless of what positions they're arguing for. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dragonwriter 8y ago
  > I asked the question, was the information released wrong or fake. Was it? Yes, the information presented to the American public as part of the (still ongoing) Russian political influence operation aimed at destabilizing the US has often been, and continues to often be, both “wrong” and “fake”.