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Benjamin Mako Hill has some really interesting things to say about how AirBnB displaced couchsurfing[1]. We could've had a world where people can stay anywhere

by iuguy 8y ago

Benjamin Mako Hill has some really interesting things to say about how AirBnB displaced couchsurfing[1]. We could've had a world where people can stay anywhere in the world for free. Instead we let a bunch of VC-funded bros convince us that adding a gatekeeper to the short term rental market was a good idea. We all need to think carefully about the consequences of our actions online, from building such applications to using them. I refuse to use AirBnB after being stuck out in the middle of nowhere and basically told to go whistle. I'm not the only person where the bad experience has been a result of AirBnB's handling of the situation, but it was us as users that enabled AirBnB to get into it's partial monopoly situation by evangelising so much for it in the early days./ [1] - http://media.mako.cc/hill-whither_peer_production-libreplanet_keynote-20180326-EDITED-v3.webm#t=199 http://media.mako.cc/hill-whither_peer_production-libreplane...

reverend_gonzo 8y ago
Couchsurfing and AirBnb are not even remotely the same. Hosting on Couchsurfing is a way to meet other travelers and show them around your city, and most importantly, you don't get paid. Hosting on AirBnb is a business. AirBnb is far closer to HomeAway and VRBO. These existed before too, but their usability was terrible and they were prone to scams.
- joveian 8y ago
  The people running couchsurfing killed it themselves by changing from a non-profit to a VC funded for-profit business after accepting huge amounts of volunteer effort. But yeah, they aren't really the same thing. There is some overlap since it could be difficult to cover every day that you wanted to visit (and there isn't always enough hostel beds available, which are closer to the same idea), but for anyone who really preferred AirBnB it was better for everyone that they not be on couchsurfing.
- archagon 8y ago
  I like AirBnb because I have to pay, even when I'm sharing the house with other people. I don't want to feel obliged to entertain my host, which IMO is the implicit tradeoff when you're staying somewhere for free.

by iuguy 8y ago

reverend_gonzo 8y ago

Couchsurfing and AirBnb are not even remotely the same. Hosting on Couchsurfing is a way to meet other travelers and show them around your city, and most importantly, you don't get paid. Hosting on AirBnb is a business. AirBnb is far closer to HomeAway and VRBO. These existed before too, but their usability was terrible and they were prone to scams.

joveian 8y ago
The people running couchsurfing killed it themselves by changing from a non-profit to a VC funded for-profit business after accepting huge amounts of volunteer effort. But yeah, they aren't really the same thing. There is some overlap since it could be difficult to cover every day that you wanted to visit (and there isn't always enough hostel beds available, which are closer to the same idea), but for anyone who really preferred AirBnB it was better for everyone that they not be on couchsurfing.
archagon 8y ago
I like AirBnb because I have to pay, even when I'm sharing the house with other people. I don't want to feel obliged to entertain my host, which IMO is the implicit tradeoff when you're staying somewhere for free.