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Even if everything you say is true, the vast majority of starbucks customers either use the drive-through or leave the building with their cups. At that point,

by hajile 8y ago

Even if everything you say is true, the vast majority of starbucks customers either use the drive-through or leave the building with their cups. At that point, it's likely going in that residential recycling that you say is often thrown out wholesale. Instead of ditching the straw, they should switch to a cardboard straw that is biodegradable.

lern_too_spel 8y ago
They leave the drivethrough and go to work, which also uses a commercial waste management company. In either case, the article's throwaway dismissal of the whole reason Starbucks removed disposable straws to begin with is lazy and misleading. A correct analysis would thoroughly analyze the recycling end.
- JoeAltmaier 8y ago
  Where I used to work, the garbage guy put it all in the same truck, going to the dump. I asked why. "They didn't raise my pay to go to the recycling center. They want me to do it 'after work' on my own time. Fuck that."
  - lern_too_spel 8y ago
    Did you raise it with your employer? Your employer has a contract woth the waste management company for a particular service. If it is not providing that service, your employer can take its business elsewhere. If your past employer was in California, it could have been out of compliance with the state's mandatory commercial recycling law. http://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/recycle/commercial/ http://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/recycle/commercial/
    - JoeAltmaier 8y ago
      It was an employee of the company. No 'waste management service'.
      - lern_too_spel 8y ago
        Then your company itself was out of compliance with the law (if it was in California).
pandler 8y ago
I’d rather not have a straw at all than attempt to drink out of another cardboard straw. Those things fall apart and collapse before I can finish my drink, and they make the drink taste like paper. If straws are a matter of convenience, paper straws are certainly not IMO. Coincidentally I think the last time I used a cardboard straw was at the Mumbai airport Starbucks. Maybe that was a test site for doing what you suggest.

by hajile 8y ago

lern_too_spel 8y ago

They leave the drivethrough and go to work, which also uses a commercial waste management company. In either case, the article's throwaway dismissal of the whole reason Starbucks removed disposable straws to begin with is lazy and misleading. A correct analysis would thoroughly analyze the recycling end.

JoeAltmaier 8y ago
Where I used to work, the garbage guy put it all in the same truck, going to the dump. I asked why. "They didn't raise my pay to go to the recycling center. They want me to do it 'after work' on my own time. Fuck that."
- lern_too_spel 8y ago
  Did you raise it with your employer? Your employer has a contract woth the waste management company for a particular service. If it is not providing that service, your employer can take its business elsewhere. If your past employer was in California, it could have been out of compliance with the state's mandatory commercial recycling law. http://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/recycle/commercial/ http://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/recycle/commercial/
  - JoeAltmaier 8y ago
    It was an employee of the company. No 'waste management service'.
    - lern_too_spel 8y ago
      Then your company itself was out of compliance with the law (if it was in California).

pandler 8y ago

I’d rather not have a straw at all than attempt to drink out of another cardboard straw. Those things fall apart and collapse before I can finish my drink, and they make the drink taste like paper. If straws are a matter of convenience, paper straws are certainly not IMO. Coincidentally I think the last time I used a cardboard straw was at the Mumbai airport Starbucks. Maybe that was a test site for doing what you suggest.