I hear things like this a lot but I never hear how you could accomplish the same things as Kubernetes (or any other orchestrator) without containers. Even if th

I hear things like this a lot but I never hear how you could accomplish the same things as Kubernetes (or any other orchestrator) without containers. Even if there were good solutions available for this, and the only advantage of containers was an organizational advantage rather than a technical one, I think that would still be a win.