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Software construction shouldn't need this level of drama or comedy. It almost feels like hero worship.
by mindfulplay 8y ago
Software construction shouldn't need this level of drama or comedy.
It almost feels like hero worship.
- ShabbosGoy 8y agoOr maybe Linus isn’t afraid to say what’s on his mind, and that’s why people respect him. You should try it some time. I know when I started doing it on here, my karma plummeted (real world analogue is “reputation” or social standing). But at least my conscience is clear.
- mindfulplay 8y agoThere is a difference between speaking your mind vs berating or insulting people.
- watwut 8y agoHe just said what was on him mind. Clearly and unambiguously.
- vermilingua 8y agoEvery other industry has “celebrities”, or otherwise popular/infamous professionals, why should software be any different; because it’s more pure?
- znpy 8y agoThis whole industry shouldn't need this level of drama or comedy.
- sonnyblarney 8y agoDrama and comedy can be fun, and it's human, after all. Toxicity is not good.
- gsich 8y agoWhy not? All work and no play ...
- crawfordcomeaux 8y agoI prefer nonviolent work and play. I also prefer people who role model nonviolence for future developers.
- gsich 8y agoI don't see violence there.
- crawfordcomeaux 8y agoViolent communication is any kind that may stimulate pain in others. Insults, criticism, and judgment are examples.
- gsich 8y agoThen there is no need for communication at all. I mean if you can't even critize ... it reads like some "Safe-Space" BS.
- crawfordcomeaux 8y agoI'm not saying violent communication isn't allowed or is wrong. I'm saying a culture that protects its usage and normalizes it is unsustainable. I prefer to strive toward minimizing its usage and cultivating cultures oriented around everyone's physical, emotional, social, spiritual, and mental well-being. Establishing nonviolent communication as an explicit cultural norm is a step toward that. Same goes for community accountability practices and transformative justice practices, which aim to help individuals and the collective by analyzing systemic cultural components to see how sustainable they are.
- gsich 8y agoTorvalds is pretty sustainable though. Since 1991 he's handling it. He also explained on why he needs to use aggressive language, can't find the source though. He said that unless you put some really strong words into a person, they won't stop with their (wrong, bad) project and get sad when it's rejected after they finish it. Well, you get physical well-being for free on Internet discussions. For the rest, I don't know. People get triggered over harmless shit so often, I just shake my head for such stupidity. You mentioned spiritual well-being. I contradict and say that if I disrespect your religion (not you as a person) and you get triggered by it (love that word) it's entirely your problem. But my Internet communication experiences also include games, so these words are not even the worst you could hear. With that in mind, the above pretty much applies all the time.
- Dirlewanger 8y agoOpen source projects needs someone to bring down the hammer and have final words, or else it will slowly descend into bikeshedding hell where nothing gets done. I fear for the future of Python.
- gkya 8y agoWhat you say is totally different from and possible without insults.