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You are the 0.01%

geezerjay 8y ago
No, I'm really not. In fact, the only reason this isn't done more often is because some OEMs defraud their customers by forcing obsolescense into their products, such as intentionally designing them to be very impractical if not impossible to do basic stuff such as cleaning air ducts or replacing a HD. If you asked any macbook pro owner if they were willing to spend money to double its RAM or HDD capacity I'm sure you wouldn't get many negative answers.
- ProblemFactory 8y ago
  That is still an extremely small minority who would upgrade. Based on what I've seen from non-technical friends and family, the standard approach to laptops is to buy a $300 netbook, fill it with crappy browser extensions and malware over a few years, complain that the computer is "too old and slow", throw it out and buy a new one.
  - geezerjay 8y ago
    > That is still an extremely small minority who would upgrade. It's really not, and it's quite obvious that the baseless assertion that no one wants to upgrade hardware is rather mind-numbingly absurd. There are businesses dedicated to repair, upgrade and refurbish computers, including laptops. There are businesses dedicated to sell used hardware which offer clients a choice of processors and other components, including different makes and models. It's utterly absurd that we're supposed that this basic need simply vanishes in a specific form factor.
- simonh 8y ago
  They're not forcing anything. You want an upgradeable laptop? Buy one. I'm sorry the fact that a lot of people like thin and light designs is to painful to you, but those people do have a choice.
- aesclepius 8y ago
  Coming from a 2012 rMBP (from which this post is being typed out), the ability to double RAM/HDD by myself would be probably the end-all be-all
- mbreese 8y ago
  But for what cost??? The price of upgradabilty is a heavier, thicker machine with probably less battery life (because they now squeeze the cells into every nook and cranny). The ability to upgrade a machine is not a no-cost argument. If given a blanket question of - ‘would you like to be able to upgrade your laptop?’ I’m sure the answer would be 100% Yes! But, if you said ‘would you like to be able to upgrade your laptop but it will be half an inch thicker and a pound heavier?’ You’d get quite a different answer.
  - freeone3000 8y ago
    It's not. People buy Thinkpads all the time, with their actual screws, separate drive bay, and swappable RAM. Half an inch and a pound is right - such a low price to pay.
Tepix 8y ago
0.1% but even that is obviously wrong because the 99.9% he claimed out of thin air.

You are the 0.01%

No, I'm really not. In fact, the only reason this isn't done more often is because some OEMs defraud their customers by forcing obsolescense into their products, such as intentionally designing them to be very impractical if not impossible to do basic stuff such as cleaning air ducts or replacing a HD. If you asked any macbook pro owner if they were willing to spend money to double its RAM or HDD capacity I'm sure you wouldn't get many negative answers.

ProblemFactory 8y ago
That is still an extremely small minority who would upgrade. Based on what I've seen from non-technical friends and family, the standard approach to laptops is to buy a $300 netbook, fill it with crappy browser extensions and malware over a few years, complain that the computer is "too old and slow", throw it out and buy a new one.
- geezerjay 8y ago
  > That is still an extremely small minority who would upgrade. It's really not, and it's quite obvious that the baseless assertion that no one wants to upgrade hardware is rather mind-numbingly absurd. There are businesses dedicated to repair, upgrade and refurbish computers, including laptops. There are businesses dedicated to sell used hardware which offer clients a choice of processors and other components, including different makes and models. It's utterly absurd that we're supposed that this basic need simply vanishes in a specific form factor.
simonh 8y ago
They're not forcing anything. You want an upgradeable laptop? Buy one. I'm sorry the fact that a lot of people like thin and light designs is to painful to you, but those people do have a choice.
aesclepius 8y ago
Coming from a 2012 rMBP (from which this post is being typed out), the ability to double RAM/HDD by myself would be probably the end-all be-all
mbreese 8y ago
But for what cost??? The price of upgradabilty is a heavier, thicker machine with probably less battery life (because they now squeeze the cells into every nook and cranny). The ability to upgrade a machine is not a no-cost argument. If given a blanket question of - ‘would you like to be able to upgrade your laptop?’ I’m sure the answer would be 100% Yes! But, if you said ‘would you like to be able to upgrade your laptop but it will be half an inch thicker and a pound heavier?’ You’d get quite a different answer.
- freeone3000 8y ago
  It's not. People buy Thinkpads all the time, with their actual screws, separate drive bay, and swappable RAM. Half an inch and a pound is right - such a low price to pay.

Tepix 8y ago

0.1% but even that is obviously wrong because the 99.9% he claimed out of thin air.