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They need to take a page from “G4 Cube” and kill this entire product design, not tweak it. Touch Bar adds cost (both money and battery) for a net negative in f

They need to take a page from “G4 Cube” and kill this entire product design, not tweak it. Touch Bar adds cost (both money and battery) for a net negative in functionality and has no external-keyboard equivalent. Wrong design, take it out. Machine is thin enough to cause unwanted trade-offs in capacity and performance. Wrong design, take it out. “Improved” keyboard means waiting more years to see if it breaks, whereas “reverted 100% to 2013 keyboard” might have created instant customers. Flaky keyboard frought with risk? Wrong design, take it out. There is nothing about this design that deserves risking spending so much money on it. They haven’t truly fixed any of the requests (except maybe maximum RAM).

danpalmer 8y ago
To play devils advocate... - I rebound caps lock to ESC, it is noticeably more comfortable to type on. - I use Touch ID loads, it makes having a long password much more practical for things like login/1Password. - I don't use the Touchbar much, but for volume/screen brightness it's ok. Net positive with the above. - I love typing on the keyboard, it's a significant improvement on the 2013 design for me, mine is fairly dusty, no issues. It also now has a 4 year (?) warranty. - My battery life is noticeably better than with my 2013 laptop (despite that laptop having a battery in excellent health). - It's fast, especially with the PCI-E SSD. I really found very few trade-offs. It was maybe £150 more than I thought was a reasonable price, but that's < 10%.
sneak 8y ago
How do you know they haven’t done precisely this? It takes more than 18 months to bring a brand new case and motherboard design to market. This could have been underway for more than a year now. (To be clear: I don’t think they have. But if they did, neither you nor I would know.)
ltc5505 8y ago
If they want to talk about "courage," admitting the flaws of their recent designs and reverting, or at least bringing back some of the features users are concerned about along side the current offerings would take courage. Aside from production, which I am pretty confident they could easily sort out, there is no reason they can't bring a 2015-styled MBP with beefed specs back on the market.

danpalmer 8y ago

To play devils advocate... - I rebound caps lock to ESC, it is noticeably more comfortable to type on. - I use Touch ID loads, it makes having a long password much more practical for things like login/1Password. - I don't use the Touchbar much, but for volume/screen brightness it's ok. Net positive with the above. - I love typing on the keyboard, it's a significant improvement on the 2013 design for me, mine is fairly dusty, no issues. It also now has a 4 year (?) warranty. - My battery life is noticeably better than with my 2013 laptop (despite that laptop having a battery in excellent health). - It's fast, especially with the PCI-E SSD. I really found very few trade-offs. It was maybe £150 more than I thought was a reasonable price, but that's < 10%.

sneak 8y ago

How do you know they haven’t done precisely this? It takes more than 18 months to bring a brand new case and motherboard design to market. This could have been underway for more than a year now. (To be clear: I don’t think they have. But if they did, neither you nor I would know.)

ltc5505 8y ago

If they want to talk about "courage," admitting the flaws of their recent designs and reverting, or at least bringing back some of the features users are concerned about along side the current offerings would take courage. Aside from production, which I am pretty confident they could easily sort out, there is no reason they can't bring a 2015-styled MBP with beefed specs back on the market.