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... And yet no one did anything. I do not ask for some kind of anonymous hero but if you see a thing like that you should at least try to block them from runnin
by ainiriand 8y ago
... And yet no one did anything. I do not ask for some kind of anonymous hero but if you see a thing like that you should at least try to block them from running.
- antsar 8y agoSounds like a good way to put oneself in harms way for no good reason. Isn't this what insurance is for?
- nsporillo 8y agoOne guy near the exit did and he got plowed over.
- Simon_says 8y agoFor $27k? Of goods that doesn't even belong to a natural person? That's nuts.
- sgspace 8y agoIf you watched the video or read the article you see a man trying to block them from running and getting knocked over.
- threatofrain 8y agoI would disagree. You're definitely risking violence because these people have a high need to escape. And the price of goods at stake? $27,000.
- ajeet_dhaliwal 8y agoAgreed, some perspective is needed, the value of these goods is not worth your life. Even more so if it's not your own business. No doubt Tim Cook himself would be making a beeline for ducking under the table.
- joe5150 8y agoit's going to need to be a lot more than $27,000 worth of stuff that doesn't even belong to me on the line before I'll risk bodily harm for it
- dhruvrrp 8y agoThat is how you get stabbed/shot. There is a reason most police departments advise to give up property and not confront robbers
- perl4ever 8y agoIt's obviously rational not to resist robbers and all the reasons people tell you not to stand. But it's still noble if someone does, because it's potentially a deterrent to other robbers, and if nobody resists, some people are statistically going to be harmed anyway. I feel a certain distaste for everyone saying don't fight back. Why can't we say "I'm not going to fight in that situation, but it's ok if other people want to"?
- ransom1538 8y agoNo. You don't get involved in a robbery. Things could go real bad real fast. The robbers (kids) are full of adrenaline and are scared. Backed into a corner taking - out a knife is just a second away. Companies pay insurance for a reason.
- csomar 8y agoI'd not do it even if it was my $27k. First, these items are property of Apple. They are worth less than $27k as far as what cost them. Second, Apple can take $27k pretty easily. Third, they might have insurance. Fourth, Police might catch them and return the goods. Fifth, the goods might be damaged anyway for Apple standards. There is literally 0 reasons to stop this crime unless you are law enforcement. You are not in Abidjan but the US. There is sufficient law to resolve matters.
- AnatMl2 8y agoWhat if they are armed? I'm not sure if it's recommended to play a hero.
- ainiriand 8y agoYou are right, sometimes I forget how things are in the US. Not worth the risk.
- intopieces 8y agoApple’s market cap exceeds the GDP of the bottom 171 countries in the world and you can bet their retail insurance policy dictates that employees take no action if the threat of violence is present. The average cost to treat a gunshot wound in the US is $154k. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9183471/ https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/m/pubmed/9183471/
- taobility 8y agoso is that means rob the goods under $150k should not be stopped?
- HeyLaughingBoy 8y agoIt simply means that your safety isn't worth trying to save a few thousand dollars of some corporation's equipment.
- scotty79 8y agoIf you gonna get shot then definitely don't try to stop such robbery.
- ainiriand 8y agoDefinitely not talking about employees, they are bound by contracts. But the customers they just stood there, watching. Not even a sign of doing anything.
- loco5niner 8y agoAbsolutely disagree. There were innocent bystanders that would have been put in jeopardy. Let them leave, it's just stuff. (and as other posters have mentioned, there are better ways of dealing with this - bricking the items, etc)
- davewongillies 8y agoFrom TFA: > One customer right outside the entrance tried preventing the men from making a dash but fell down.
- pluto9 8y agoMany stores will fire their own employees for trying to physically stop shoplifters [1]. If it's not worth their while to protect their own merchandise, why would I put myself at risk for it? [1] https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/labor-employment-law/human-resources-law/it-doesnt-always-pay-to-be-a-shoplifter-superhero.html https://www.lawyers.com/legal-info/labor-employment-law/huma...
- onetimemanytime 8y agoAnon hero making $12 an hour so AAPL can have higher earnings? Nah, thanks, I'll pass. Not to mention that most likely you'll get fired. Apple, Walmart, Chase and all, would rather take the loss than pay $1000 an hour lawyers and potentially a multi-million judgment (Like it or not, you can't kill or hurt the thief for example).
- GW150914 8y agoNever interfere unless you’re convinced that your life is in danger. Any police officer will tell you the same. Money can be replaced, and insured... your life is not.
- ainiriand 8y agoTo everyone that replied to my comment, you are absolutely right and I thing I judged too quickly this kind of situation. It should be left to the authorities as those guys can be armed or pose a threat to anyone. I dont think it is the same in Europe, you never see armed robberies.