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Because reporting involves more than just a cellphone video. It involves understanding and reporting of the context, and not just local context either.

hanshan 8y ago
So, a subject matter expert with a cellphone video?
- SubiculumCode 8y ago
  Well sure. But expertise takes time and money.
  - hanshan 8y ago
    Time is more important than money, and expertise does not depend on the funding of a newspaper or media company
    - SubiculumCode 8y ago
      Money gives you time. If you aren't being paid to do the journalism then you are getting paid to do something else, or you aren't getting paid at all, which sucks.
      - hanshan 8y ago
        >Money gives you time. Being alive gives you time. >If you aren't being paid to do the journalism then you are getting paid to do something else Yeah, you're getting paid to do whatever it is you're a subject matter expert in. Reporting on it in important situations is simply a public service which people do all the time with blogs and such. Implying people only want to do things if they're paid money is silly.
  - EGreg 8y ago
    You may be greatly underappreciating how a large group of people, each contributing a small change, can manifest collective expertise far exceeding one or two hired experts. There is also far less bias in the final product. Yes, it takes time and money. But it is not concentrated in a few individuals that are paid by someone. It is actually made up of thousands of small contributions, from people who know something. CASE IN POINT https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hessian_matrix https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hessian_matrix I started this article back in 2005 I believe, while I was a math grad student in NYU. I went on to do other things besides math. The article is now much more expanded, each diagram improved several times, the Talk page discusses various things, all over the span of years with dozens of experts contributing. I still like to come back and see that a tiny bit of the original language and page structure I put together has remained, but a lot of it is simply beyond what I knew at the time and certainly what I know now about it.
EGreg 8y ago
And of course, only elite “experts” hired by a company can be trusted to figure out the context. A group of actual citizens working together on a wiki cannot possibly match the insight of a single pundit. Oh wait... Like Britannica is so much better than Wikipedia. Which do you think has less bias, wikinews or fox news or cnn? And then of course there’s this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TrsayZ61v_c https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TrsayZ61v_c

hanshan 8y ago

So, a subject matter expert with a cellphone video?

SubiculumCode 8y ago
Well sure. But expertise takes time and money.
- hanshan 8y ago
  Time is more important than money, and expertise does not depend on the funding of a newspaper or media company
  - SubiculumCode 8y ago
    Money gives you time. If you aren't being paid to do the journalism then you are getting paid to do something else, or you aren't getting paid at all, which sucks.
    - hanshan 8y ago
      >Money gives you time. Being alive gives you time. >If you aren't being paid to do the journalism then you are getting paid to do something else Yeah, you're getting paid to do whatever it is you're a subject matter expert in. Reporting on it in important situations is simply a public service which people do all the time with blogs and such. Implying people only want to do things if they're paid money is silly.
- EGreg 8y ago
  You may be greatly underappreciating how a large group of people, each contributing a small change, can manifest collective expertise far exceeding one or two hired experts. There is also far less bias in the final product. Yes, it takes time and money. But it is not concentrated in a few individuals that are paid by someone. It is actually made up of thousands of small contributions, from people who know something. CASE IN POINT https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hessian_matrix https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hessian_matrix I started this article back in 2005 I believe, while I was a math grad student in NYU. I went on to do other things besides math. The article is now much more expanded, each diagram improved several times, the Talk page discusses various things, all over the span of years with dozens of experts contributing. I still like to come back and see that a tiny bit of the original language and page structure I put together has remained, but a lot of it is simply beyond what I knew at the time and certainly what I know now about it.

EGreg 8y ago

And of course, only elite “experts” hired by a company can be trusted to figure out the context. A group of actual citizens working together on a wiki cannot possibly match the insight of a single pundit. Oh wait... Like Britannica is so much better than Wikipedia. Which do you think has less bias, wikinews or fox news or cnn? And then of course there’s this: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TrsayZ61v_c https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=TrsayZ61v_c