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I've been waiting to get a new MacBook until they fix the keyboard issue. Any word on that with these newer models? Or are they doubling down...

by timwis 8y ago

some_account 8y ago
Seems like just new processors for the macbook "pro" . The iPad pro 11 inch could be interesting though. It doesn't have a keyboard so Apple shouldn't be able to mess it up.
- tqkxzugoaupvwqr 8y ago
  I use an iPad Pro 12.9" with Apple’s Smart Keyboard. While the keys are okay (as opposed to the problem with the laptop keys), Apple decided to not provide a Forward Delete key or key combination. (Forward Delete deletes the character to the right of the cursor.) This makes text editing quite cumbersome.
  - X-Istence 8y ago
    Does Ctrl + D not do what you want? Or do they not provide a control key on the keyboard?
    - tqkxzugoaupvwqr 8y ago
      Ctrl + D does nothing.
      - X-Istence 8y ago
        Shame, that does what you desire on MacOS. Just like Ctr + K will clear till the end of the line from the cursor forward.
fetus8 8y ago
I would have to think, perhaps optimistically, that with all the issues with the recent MBPs that Apple would fix/upgrade the keyboards in the next series of MBPs. The rumors posted today strictly talk about chipset updates, but I'm holding out hope they fix the keyboards even if the form-factor of the device remains the same...
joshstrange 8y ago
I think we are currently in a "first" for Apple in where they announced an extended warranty for their 2016+ laptops WITHOUT having viable alternative for sale. I really hope this means we get some upgrade to the keyboard. I've got a 2014 and I really want to upgrade to a 15" with dedicated graphics but if they don't fix the keyboard my "upgrade" will be to a 2015 model. There were some reports that Apple is using a new alloy when they replace in those stupid butterfly switches them that has less issues but it hasn't been confirmed AFAIK.
- y_molodtsov 8y ago
  iFixit confirmed that 2016 and 2017 butterfly keyboards are just a little different. They’re replacing with 2017 now and there’s no any data on their actual failure rate except for the fears on Twitter.
  - kondro 8y ago
    Every MacBook I’ve bought for our business (and every MB any of my friends has owned) since 2016 (including the 2017 models) continues to have regular keyboard problems leading to repair. It’s only a sample size of a couple dozen, but 100% of them have had keyboard problems within 6 months.

I've been waiting to get a new MacBook until they fix the keyboard issue. Any word on that with these newer models? Or are they doubling down...

by timwis 8y ago

I've been waiting to get a new MacBook until they fix the keyboard issue. Any word on that with these newer models? Or are they doubling down...

some_account 8y ago

Seems like just new processors for the macbook "pro" . The iPad pro 11 inch could be interesting though. It doesn't have a keyboard so Apple shouldn't be able to mess it up.

tqkxzugoaupvwqr 8y ago
I use an iPad Pro 12.9" with Apple’s Smart Keyboard. While the keys are okay (as opposed to the problem with the laptop keys), Apple decided to not provide a Forward Delete key or key combination. (Forward Delete deletes the character to the right of the cursor.) This makes text editing quite cumbersome.
- X-Istence 8y ago
  Does Ctrl + D not do what you want? Or do they not provide a control key on the keyboard?
  - tqkxzugoaupvwqr 8y ago
    Ctrl + D does nothing.
    - X-Istence 8y ago
      Shame, that does what you desire on MacOS. Just like Ctr + K will clear till the end of the line from the cursor forward.

fetus8 8y ago

I would have to think, perhaps optimistically, that with all the issues with the recent MBPs that Apple would fix/upgrade the keyboards in the next series of MBPs. The rumors posted today strictly talk about chipset updates, but I'm holding out hope they fix the keyboards even if the form-factor of the device remains the same...

joshstrange 8y ago

I think we are currently in a "first" for Apple in where they announced an extended warranty for their 2016+ laptops WITHOUT having viable alternative for sale. I really hope this means we get some upgrade to the keyboard. I've got a 2014 and I really want to upgrade to a 15" with dedicated graphics but if they don't fix the keyboard my "upgrade" will be to a 2015 model. There were some reports that Apple is using a new alloy when they replace in those stupid butterfly switches them that has less issues but it hasn't been confirmed AFAIK.

y_molodtsov 8y ago
iFixit confirmed that 2016 and 2017 butterfly keyboards are just a little different. They’re replacing with 2017 now and there’s no any data on their actual failure rate except for the fears on Twitter.
- kondro 8y ago
  Every MacBook I’ve bought for our business (and every MB any of my friends has owned) since 2016 (including the 2017 models) continues to have regular keyboard problems leading to repair. It’s only a sample size of a couple dozen, but 100% of them have had keyboard problems within 6 months.