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I am quite interested in UBI and look forward to seeing more empirical data on the various experiments being conducted. Having said that, the "danger" of UBI i
by DanielBMarkham 8y ago
I am quite interested in UBI and look forward to seeing more empirical data on the various experiments being conducted.
Having said that, the "danger" of UBI is that it's a big, fat slogan that can mean damned-near anything -- and there are a ton of people who both support and oppose it because of the way the idea makes them feel. That makes for a terrible environment for productive public discourse.
The only half-ass real world data I know about is the independently wealthy. They get money every month and don't have to work. In general, people who become that way suddenly ruin their lives. And the numbers probably aren't so good for those who earn it and then stop to enjoy it.
This example sucks, however, as the goal of UBI (as far as I know) isn't to replace all income. It's to cover the basic needs of people so they can be free to study, improve their lives, and not have to spend all of their energy in the day-to-day struggle of existence. I have no idea how it will play out in that scenario, and I suspect that the long-term effects will be much more pronounced than the short-term ones. This will be, after all, a major culture shift.
I like the idea. I just don't know enough about it -- and it doesn't have enough definition -- for me to support the idea.
- ohthehugemanate 8y agoNo matter which version of a UBI you support, there's one key feature that I just can't imagine happening out here in the real world. A UBI should REPLACE most existing forms of social assistance. Food stamps, unemployment insurance, some kinds of pensions, some kinds of child support, etc etc etc. Each one of those is a massive public sector industry with a lot of political weight behind it. I live in Germany, where every market has some form of social assistance connected to it. The task of dismantling that bureaucracy would be outrageous... And quite a lot to spend on a relatively untested scheme like any UBI.