>>simply moping around doing nothing of value while this may be true, I think it's somewhat of a false dichotomy. If we get to the point where UBI is implement

>>simply moping around doing nothing of value while this may be true, I think it's somewhat of a false dichotomy. If we get to the point where UBI is implemented, I don't think the only two choices will be 'continue working or mope around'. There are hundreds of thousands of ways to create value in society, and they don't have to be tied to the notion of working in exchange for money for survival. I think the fear is that a small portion of society will be doing all the work to support the 'lazy ones'. It's understandable, but I think it is entirely possible to avoid that situation. Of course, it would require a fundamental shift in our worldly view (i.e. from individual success to shared success), but those discussions are hard and usually get shut down as 'commie crap'.