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Unfortunately some groups (and governments) in Europe are now trying to criminalize providing information to immigrants.
by nieve 8y ago
Unfortunately some groups (and governments) in Europe are now trying to criminalize providing information to immigrants.
- mistermann 8y agoDo you have a citation for this claim?
- snaily 8y agoI believe the GP refers to Hungary's "Soros Law": https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/world/europe/hungary-stop-soros-law.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/20/world/europe/hungary-stop... "Under the terms of a new law, helping migrants legalize their status in Hungary by distributing information about the asylum process or providing them with financial assistance could result in a 12-month jail term."
- fjsolwmv 8y agoIt's the "Stop Soros Law", not the "Soros Law". Also you (accidentally?) Glossed over the part that it's targeting illegal immigrants.
- macintux 8y agoLaws like that tend to spill over into the legal migrant community. When someone asks for help, it now becomes your onus to verify their legal status lest you break the law, making people less likely to help out at all.
- mistermann 8y ago> Laws like that tend to spill over into the legal migrant community. If / when that happens, OP would then be correct in his claim. Until then, he is incorrect.
- mistermann 8y agoDownvoting based on differences of opinion is fine, and in accordance with HN guidelines. Downvoting on matters of fact is something else entirely. I'd love to know how people justify this intellectual dishonesty in their minds, "the ends justify the means"? Be careful of the precedent you are setting, normalizing fact-free judgement in society might someday turn on you.
- dragonwriter 8y ago> Glossed over the part that it's targeting illegal immigrants. It's specifically targeting potential asylum seekers that are “illegal immigrants” only to the extent that they are unaware of the proper asylum process by criminalizing correcting that deficiency.
- mistermann 8y agoMigrants, not immigrants. There is a difference.
- tiatia123 8y agoYeah. Like the people who hire ships and basically offer a taxi service from Europe to Africa. The migrants sit on tiny boats, let the boats drift a few miles into the sea, send an emergency signal, get picked up and instead of getting brought back 5 miles to Africa, they are shipped to Europe. Then, let other people pay for health care, food, shelter, pocket money.
- dang 8y agoIf you continue to use HN for ideological and national battle, we are going to have to ban you. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html