That would be why I mentioned -certain types- of societies. I do not think this is applicable to all cultures but many of them. I have visited them and indeed

That would be why I mentioned -certain types- of societies. I do not think this is applicable to all cultures but many of them. I have visited them and indeed I find a certain split between my experience of people's cultures and values say in the south of france and italy than I do in germany or russia. I'm not sure if I really want to make the conjecture that there are two kinds of societies but I feel that on this issue it would certainly seem that way.