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There are those of us who are happy with the new leadership in general who were not fans of her. That's not a conversation I'm having on a public forum, though.

by rrix2 8y ago

creddit 8y ago
Then why mention it at all? If you're not willing to back up such a statement like that with any kind of reasoning and state so explicitly, why bother telling anyone? This is a forum; implying a place for discussion. If you don't intend to do that, refraining from such provocative but unsubstantiated additions is more positive.
- rrix2 8y ago
  If the person who works at uber wants to know more they know how to get in contact with me, I use my real name here and I’m not about to get fired for providing at least a hint that not everyone was hoodwinked by her. Also, if you think my hedging here is paranoid: https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/guild-wars-2-writers-fired-following-heated-twitter-exchange-with-streamer/ https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/guild-wars-2-writers-fired-follo...
  - creddit 8y ago
    And as a privacy engineer you're unaware of anyway to maintain your privacy and remain anonymous in order to provide constructive additions to the conversation? You don't fear firing due to stating your dislike of the former exec but fear what might happen if you explain that dislike???
    - rrix2 8y ago
      Friend, this is a professional forum and I am trying to be just that: professional. I don’t want to waste my time having to do damage control if the internet decides to shit on me for having an opinion. I want to provide viewpoints to my anonymous coworker upthread that not everyone agrees with them.
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    - rrix2 8y ago
      Since I feel like I didn’t address the core of your latter point: the difference here is that I don’t violate any agreements with my employer by stating a simple opinion. I put myself at risk when I explain that with information that is 1) worth pageviews and incidniary writing and 2) violates the trust of people I respect who have shared their own anecdotes with me. I could paint broad strokes but that doesn’t help folks understand things any better than if I just elided it entirely.
      - Gigablah 8y ago
        "providing at least a hint that not everyone was hoodwinked by her" I think this already goes beyond opinion into insinuation.
        rrix2 8y ago
        That's fair and appreciated. At that point I was agitated and defensive last night, and that came out there.
- lmartel 8y ago
  Couldn't you criticize the parent comment for exactly the same reason? Someone posted "I liked her" and someone else posted "well I didn't."
  - creddit 8y ago
    I see no indication that the parent would refuse to provide reasoning behind their statement.
    - rrix2 8y ago
      If I edited my last sentence out and simply ignored any responses instead would you be satisfied?
- fenomas 8y ago
  > If you're not willing to back up such a statement like that with any kind of reasoning and state so explicitly... This is unwarranted. GP's comment was vague, but no vaguer than the one they were replying to - both offered subjective personal opinions about the topic of the article. That's hardly out of line for a discussion forum.
- lhorie 8y ago
  > why bother telling anyone To me, the intent here appears to be to offer anecdata to make a case that she wasn't _universally_ beloved. I think it's meaningful and useful to be reminded that employees in a company aren't a bunch of mindless sheep and that they can have different values and opinions. There's no need to do any lynching/bad-mouthing publically for that.

There are those of us who are happy with the new leadership in general who were not fans of her. That's not a conversation I'm having on a public forum, though.

by rrix2 8y ago

There are those of us who are happy with the new leadership in general who were not fans of her. That's not a conversation I'm having on a public forum, though.

creddit 8y ago

Then why mention it at all? If you're not willing to back up such a statement like that with any kind of reasoning and state so explicitly, why bother telling anyone? This is a forum; implying a place for discussion. If you don't intend to do that, refraining from such provocative but unsubstantiated additions is more positive.

rrix2 8y ago
If the person who works at uber wants to know more they know how to get in contact with me, I use my real name here and I’m not about to get fired for providing at least a hint that not everyone was hoodwinked by her. Also, if you think my hedging here is paranoid: https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/guild-wars-2-writers-fired-following-heated-twitter-exchange-with-streamer/ https://www.pcgamer.com/amp/guild-wars-2-writers-fired-follo...
- creddit 8y ago
  And as a privacy engineer you're unaware of anyway to maintain your privacy and remain anonymous in order to provide constructive additions to the conversation? You don't fear firing due to stating your dislike of the former exec but fear what might happen if you explain that dislike???
  - rrix2 8y ago
    Friend, this is a professional forum and I am trying to be just that: professional. I don’t want to waste my time having to do damage control if the internet decides to shit on me for having an opinion. I want to provide viewpoints to my anonymous coworker upthread that not everyone agrees with them.
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  - rrix2 8y ago
    Since I feel like I didn’t address the core of your latter point: the difference here is that I don’t violate any agreements with my employer by stating a simple opinion. I put myself at risk when I explain that with information that is 1) worth pageviews and incidniary writing and 2) violates the trust of people I respect who have shared their own anecdotes with me. I could paint broad strokes but that doesn’t help folks understand things any better than if I just elided it entirely.
    - Gigablah 8y ago
      "providing at least a hint that not everyone was hoodwinked by her" I think this already goes beyond opinion into insinuation.
      - rrix2 8y ago
        That's fair and appreciated. At that point I was agitated and defensive last night, and that came out there.
lmartel 8y ago
Couldn't you criticize the parent comment for exactly the same reason? Someone posted "I liked her" and someone else posted "well I didn't."
- creddit 8y ago
  I see no indication that the parent would refuse to provide reasoning behind their statement.
  - rrix2 8y ago
    If I edited my last sentence out and simply ignored any responses instead would you be satisfied?
fenomas 8y ago
> If you're not willing to back up such a statement like that with any kind of reasoning and state so explicitly... This is unwarranted. GP's comment was vague, but no vaguer than the one they were replying to - both offered subjective personal opinions about the topic of the article. That's hardly out of line for a discussion forum.
lhorie 8y ago
> why bother telling anyone To me, the intent here appears to be to offer anecdata to make a case that she wasn't _universally_ beloved. I think it's meaningful and useful to be reminded that employees in a company aren't a bunch of mindless sheep and that they can have different values and opinions. There's no need to do any lynching/bad-mouthing publically for that.