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One question regarding the salary (seems similar to Spain, Portugal) - how does it compare to such "low-income" professions (e.g. in US) such as taxi driver in

by zerr 8y ago

One question regarding the salary (seems similar to Spain, Portugal) - how does it compare to such "low-income" professions (e.g. in US) such as taxi driver in your country?

tom_mellior 8y ago
The lower range given here (33k) is pretty much the legal minimum for software development for an absolute beginner. Collective agreement in English: https://www.wko.at/branchen/information-consulting/unternehmensberatung-buchhaltung-informationstechnologie/it-dienstleistung/Collective-Agreement-2015.pdf https://www.wko.at/branchen/information-consulting/unternehm... Updated numbers for 2018 (in German): https://www.wko.at/branchen/information-consulting/unternehmensberatung-buchhaltung-informationstechnologie/it-dienstleistung/ueberblick-kv-it-abschluss-2018.pdf https://www.wko.at/branchen/information-consulting/unternehm... The relevant column is presumably ST1 ("specific tasks 1"), in several categories according to experience. The given numbers are a "monthly" salary paid 14 times per year, so the absolute minimum per year is 14 * 2.273 = 31822 Euro per year. If they actually only give you 33k per year, that can only be "above Austria industry average" if the industry, on average, breaks the law. Which is quite possible. Anyway, the collective agreement for taxi drivers (German: https://www.wko.at/service/kollektivvertrag/personenbefoerderungsgewerbe-kollektivvertrag-arbeiter.html https://www.wko.at/service/kollektivvertrag/personenbefoerde...) is 1.235 Euro per "month", which would be 17k per year, and I cannot imagine that they are paid a lot more than the minimum in general. So overall it's at least twice of what a taxi driver would make. Edit: It's neither specific to taxi drivers nor software developers, but Numbeo claims average monthly net salaries of 858.64 € for Lisbon and 1,781.56 € for Salzburg, so you might be mistaken about this being comparable to Portugal. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Portugal&country2=Austria&city1=Lisbon&city2=Salzburg https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...
- zerr 8y ago
  I mean, I see quite small figures in these countries and it makes me think that software engineering in general is not considered as a significantly high-paid profession in general. i.e. in my country, programmer makes 6 to 10 times or more, compared e.g. to taxi driver.

by zerr 8y ago

One question regarding the salary (seems similar to Spain, Portugal) - how does it compare to such "low-income" professions (e.g. in US) such as taxi driver in your country?

tom_mellior 8y ago

The lower range given here (33k) is pretty much the legal minimum for software development for an absolute beginner. Collective agreement in English: https://www.wko.at/branchen/information-consulting/unternehmensberatung-buchhaltung-informationstechnologie/it-dienstleistung/Collective-Agreement-2015.pdf https://www.wko.at/branchen/information-consulting/unternehm... Updated numbers for 2018 (in German): https://www.wko.at/branchen/information-consulting/unternehmensberatung-buchhaltung-informationstechnologie/it-dienstleistung/ueberblick-kv-it-abschluss-2018.pdf https://www.wko.at/branchen/information-consulting/unternehm... The relevant column is presumably ST1 ("specific tasks 1"), in several categories according to experience. The given numbers are a "monthly" salary paid 14 times per year, so the absolute minimum per year is 14 * 2.273 = 31822 Euro per year. If they actually only give you 33k per year, that can only be "above Austria industry average" if the industry, on average, breaks the law. Which is quite possible. Anyway, the collective agreement for taxi drivers (German: https://www.wko.at/service/kollektivvertrag/personenbefoerderungsgewerbe-kollektivvertrag-arbeiter.html https://www.wko.at/service/kollektivvertrag/personenbefoerde...) is 1.235 Euro per "month", which would be 17k per year, and I cannot imagine that they are paid a lot more than the minimum in general. So overall it's at least twice of what a taxi driver would make. Edit: It's neither specific to taxi drivers nor software developers, but Numbeo claims average monthly net salaries of 858.64 € for Lisbon and 1,781.56 € for Salzburg, so you might be mistaken about this being comparable to Portugal. https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=Portugal&country2=Austria&city1=Lisbon&city2=Salzburg https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?cou...

zerr 8y ago
I mean, I see quite small figures in these countries and it makes me think that software engineering in general is not considered as a significantly high-paid profession in general. i.e. in my country, programmer makes 6 to 10 times or more, compared e.g. to taxi driver.