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Anyone who thought the working class would benefit in any way from these tax cuts was delusional. Profit is almost never seen by the creators (workers) of the p

Anyone who thought the working class would benefit in any way from these tax cuts was delusional. Profit is almost never seen by the creators (workers) of the profit in this current system.

craftyguy 8y ago
> Anyone who thought the working class would benefit in any way from these tax cuts was delusional. Sure, but the 'anyone' includes a large (though not majority) portion of the US voting population. Now what?
- astrodust 8y ago
  A large but not majority portion of the US voting population can't find America on a map. Now what?
  - craftyguy 8y ago
    So we should accept that a large but not majority portion of the US voting population is relatively uneducated? Or do something about it? I fail to see how your comment is making a different point than mine, maybe it's not?
    - astrodust 8y ago
      I'm just saying we need to accept that a concerningly large portion of the US voting population has no clue, no understanding at all, and further, they don't care. They just vote for representatives of their tribe. Until there's a way to disrupt that, to break up this tribe into smaller, less significant groups, this is how things are going to be. It's not that they're relatively uneducated, but that they're negatively uneducated: viewers of Fox News know less about world events than people who don't watch any news at all.
      - craftyguy 8y ago
        Well said. I used the term 'relatively' because most(?) of them can at least turn on fox news, whereas 70 years ago very few would be able to operate a modern TV to get at fox news without at least 30 seconds of being taught how.
        astrodust 8y ago
        Seventy years ago things like Fox News didn't exist. Although various news stations had their bias, it wasn't as overt as what Fox does with crafting their narratives and painting every story with their brush. Now you can exist in a bubble of Rush Libaugh, Alex Jones, Fox News and other extreme right-wing publications and find yourself utterly isolated from anything resembling objective truth or actual journalism. In that bubble you won't know up from down, you'll just cheer for your "team" to win.
        prolikewh0a 8y ago
        >Seventy years ago things like Fox News didn't exist. There was also much more variety, but since then most of the newspapers and news networks have been bought up by a relatively small amount of companies. Clear Channel was allowed to own thousands of radio stations. [0] http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6 http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-...
        astrodust 8y ago
        Fast forward to a few years from now when six becomes three, and then three becomes two. Or one.

Anyone who thought the working class would benefit in any way from these tax cuts was delusional. Profit is almost never seen by the creators (workers) of the profit in this current system.

craftyguy 8y ago

> Anyone who thought the working class would benefit in any way from these tax cuts was delusional. Sure, but the 'anyone' includes a large (though not majority) portion of the US voting population. Now what?

astrodust 8y ago
A large but not majority portion of the US voting population can't find America on a map. Now what?
- craftyguy 8y ago
  So we should accept that a large but not majority portion of the US voting population is relatively uneducated? Or do something about it? I fail to see how your comment is making a different point than mine, maybe it's not?
  - astrodust 8y ago
    I'm just saying we need to accept that a concerningly large portion of the US voting population has no clue, no understanding at all, and further, they don't care. They just vote for representatives of their tribe. Until there's a way to disrupt that, to break up this tribe into smaller, less significant groups, this is how things are going to be. It's not that they're relatively uneducated, but that they're negatively uneducated: viewers of Fox News know less about world events than people who don't watch any news at all.
    - craftyguy 8y ago
      Well said. I used the term 'relatively' because most(?) of them can at least turn on fox news, whereas 70 years ago very few would be able to operate a modern TV to get at fox news without at least 30 seconds of being taught how.
      - astrodust 8y ago
        Seventy years ago things like Fox News didn't exist. Although various news stations had their bias, it wasn't as overt as what Fox does with crafting their narratives and painting every story with their brush. Now you can exist in a bubble of Rush Libaugh, Alex Jones, Fox News and other extreme right-wing publications and find yourself utterly isolated from anything resembling objective truth or actual journalism. In that bubble you won't know up from down, you'll just cheer for your "team" to win.
        prolikewh0a 8y ago
        >Seventy years ago things like Fox News didn't exist. There was also much more variety, but since then most of the newspapers and news networks have been bought up by a relatively small amount of companies. Clear Channel was allowed to own thousands of radio stations. [0] http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-90-of-the-media-in-america-2012-6 http://www.businessinsider.com/these-6-corporations-control-...
        astrodust 8y ago
        Fast forward to a few years from now when six becomes three, and then three becomes two. Or one.