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It's refreshing to read an article which challenges common wisdom. I've endured a lot of suffering at the hands of the microservices fan club. It's good to see

It's refreshing to read an article which challenges common wisdom. I've endured a lot of suffering at the hands of the microservices fan club. It's good to see reason finally prevail over rhetoric. It would have been nice if people had written articles like this 2 years ago but unfortunately, people with such good reasoning abilities would probably not have been able to find work back then. Software development rhetoric is like religion. If you're not on board you will be burned at the stake. So many times during technical discussions, I had to keep my mouth shut in the name of self-preservation.

orcasauce 8y ago
> So many times during technical discussions, I had to keep my mouth shut in the name of self-preservation. This sounds like an issue with being able to articulate why something is or isn't going to net the expected benefits or being able to foresee unexpected risks. Keeping silent is better than throwing out silly hyperbole risks, but not bring up real risks because "they don't want to hear it" is completely bogus. Any solid engineer will bite at another potential risk to ensure they don't find themselves engineered into a corner 65% through a project. Your comment also makes it out like the notion the article is making, monolith over microserves, is gospel for every situation; that in no condition would it ever make sense to use microserves and that only naive zealots would espouse the wisdom (dogma) to use them. You can use any piece of technology poorly, that doesn't mean the core concept is flawed, just that your problem space is different than what that software is trying to solve. Consider using HDFS as a primary data store in place of MySQL where it doesn't make sense and you might cry the wisdom of wishing someone had told you HDFS is terrible and to just use the tried and true MySQL of olden days.
- grosjona 8y ago
  >> This sounds like an issue with being able to articulate why something is... The issue is not articulation of ideas; the issue is that when all the books, all the articles and all people believe that something is true, there is no amount of articulation which will be able to convince them otherwise. You have to wait for the hype to go away before even considering bringing up the argument.
kyberias 8y ago
> It's refreshing to read an article which challenges common wisdom. This didn't challenge any "common wisdom". Common wisdom didn't tell them to do this. Cargo cult engineering is not common wisdom.

orcasauce 8y ago

> So many times during technical discussions, I had to keep my mouth shut in the name of self-preservation. This sounds like an issue with being able to articulate why something is or isn't going to net the expected benefits or being able to foresee unexpected risks. Keeping silent is better than throwing out silly hyperbole risks, but not bring up real risks because "they don't want to hear it" is completely bogus. Any solid engineer will bite at another potential risk to ensure they don't find themselves engineered into a corner 65% through a project. Your comment also makes it out like the notion the article is making, monolith over microserves, is gospel for every situation; that in no condition would it ever make sense to use microserves and that only naive zealots would espouse the wisdom (dogma) to use them. You can use any piece of technology poorly, that doesn't mean the core concept is flawed, just that your problem space is different than what that software is trying to solve. Consider using HDFS as a primary data store in place of MySQL where it doesn't make sense and you might cry the wisdom of wishing someone had told you HDFS is terrible and to just use the tried and true MySQL of olden days.

grosjona 8y ago
>> This sounds like an issue with being able to articulate why something is... The issue is not articulation of ideas; the issue is that when all the books, all the articles and all people believe that something is true, there is no amount of articulation which will be able to convince them otherwise. You have to wait for the hype to go away before even considering bringing up the argument.

kyberias 8y ago

> It's refreshing to read an article which challenges common wisdom. This didn't challenge any "common wisdom". Common wisdom didn't tell them to do this. Cargo cult engineering is not common wisdom.