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There's rumors that Apple will release a Prime like service. It would be very nice to see Music, 1Password, iCloud Storage, and whatever TV show they are workin

There's rumors that Apple will release a Prime like service. It would be very nice to see Music, 1Password, iCloud Storage, and whatever TV show they are working on bundled into an annual subscription.

jonknee 8y ago
It would be lame if Apple bought 1Password and continued to charge for it. It doesn't have the same economics of stuff like storage or music streaming and should be free if backed by a company like Apple. I have no problem at all paying Agile Bits, but I don't want to pay Apple for a password manager.
- Eridrus 8y ago
  So, on one hand, I agree, password managers/FIDO should basically be part of every OS/browser and tech companies should come together to make it all interop seamlessly for the good of society. On the other hand, the biggest barrier to adoption that I have found is people losing their master password. And supporting good account recovery is difficult and expensive. A subscription service that actually had a real way of validating identity for account recovery could be something worth paying for, for people who are not very tech savvy. Maybe we can come up with a good account recovery service without dedicated customer support folks, but the moment you have a bad experience, you're probably going to go back to Password123.
  - Nullabillity 8y ago
    Any possibility of account recovery completely torpedoes the product's security.
    - Eridrus 8y ago
      But in the real world, should there be account recovery, or wide spread password reuse where hacking random sites gets people's passwords to more important sites.
      - Bud 8y ago
        Neither. And that's a false choice.
sensecall 8y ago
That's really interesting, keen to read more if you could share a link? The only thing I could find was this - https://redef.com/original/apples-prime-and-explaining-apples-video-ambitions https://redef.com/original/apples-prime-and-explaining-apple... Had this thought yesterday when I switched to Apple Music and wondered why they don't bundle their services... could even offer regular handset updates.
asdsa5325 8y ago
They could of course do that without an acquisition, just a business deal with 1Password.

jonknee 8y ago

It would be lame if Apple bought 1Password and continued to charge for it. It doesn't have the same economics of stuff like storage or music streaming and should be free if backed by a company like Apple. I have no problem at all paying Agile Bits, but I don't want to pay Apple for a password manager.

Eridrus 8y ago
So, on one hand, I agree, password managers/FIDO should basically be part of every OS/browser and tech companies should come together to make it all interop seamlessly for the good of society. On the other hand, the biggest barrier to adoption that I have found is people losing their master password. And supporting good account recovery is difficult and expensive. A subscription service that actually had a real way of validating identity for account recovery could be something worth paying for, for people who are not very tech savvy. Maybe we can come up with a good account recovery service without dedicated customer support folks, but the moment you have a bad experience, you're probably going to go back to Password123.
- Nullabillity 8y ago
  Any possibility of account recovery completely torpedoes the product's security.
  - Eridrus 8y ago
    But in the real world, should there be account recovery, or wide spread password reuse where hacking random sites gets people's passwords to more important sites.
    - Bud 8y ago
      Neither. And that's a false choice.

sensecall 8y ago

That's really interesting, keen to read more if you could share a link? The only thing I could find was this - https://redef.com/original/apples-prime-and-explaining-apples-video-ambitions https://redef.com/original/apples-prime-and-explaining-apple... Had this thought yesterday when I switched to Apple Music and wondered why they don't bundle their services... could even offer regular handset updates.

asdsa5325 8y ago

They could of course do that without an acquisition, just a business deal with 1Password.