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The amazing part to me is that it was 12 kids and one adult. Between the fear and the biological needs, I wonder what kept them alive for so long. First, the f

The amazing part to me is that it was 12 kids and one adult. Between the fear and the biological needs, I wonder what kept them alive for so long. First, the first time I fasted I was quited stressed about it, and it was in controlled, cozy environment. Second, they didn't know if anybody would come. Not even if somebody could come. For 9 days without eating and living in their own shit in the dark, they wondered. I'm awaiting for the unavoidable book/movie, hoping they don't try to make it epic and get into real details about this.

koolba 8y ago
I bet literally being a team helped out. It's not just a random group of people. They all know each other, they know each other's personalities, and there's a natural cohesion to win (i.e. not die!) together.
- sametmax 8y ago
  Possibly, especially since they were with a coach. He if kept it up, then it could have helped a lot.
ryanmercer 8y ago
>I'm awaiting for the unavoidable book/movie. Hollywood producers are already on the ground http://www.newsweek.com/hollywood-producers-head-thai-cave-rescue-site-plan-blockbuster-movie-1015501 http://www.newsweek.com/hollywood-producers-head-thai-cave-r...
- meowzero 8y ago
  It'll probably take place somewhere in the US and white wash it with white actors. Maybe they'll make one of the kids (a girl) Asian to give a little nod to the original story.
  - pepy 8y ago
    and that girl will be helping hand - because when she grows up, she wants to be a doctor
- bprieto 8y ago
  The coach then will be an american living in Thailand, half the team will be girls, the sport will be american football instead of soccer, one of the rescuers will be a woman who happens to be an ex-girlfriend of the coach, there will be a bad guy from the government or some company that wants to leave them in the cave because it's cheaper... and Elon Musk's device will save the day.
  - arkitaip 8y ago
    ...And it's already made 400M.
  - vinkelhake 8y ago
    The rumor is that The Rock is going to play the coach. Kevin Hart will play all 12 boys.
    - ryanmercer 8y ago
      >The rumor is that The Rock is going to play the coach. Kevin Hart will play all 12 boys. I would actually pay to see this.
  - Reedx 8y ago
    Ha, you nailed it. I hate how plausible this is.
  - sangnoir 8y ago
    > there will be a bad guy from the government Elon Musk is ahead of you - he has his government villain already: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1016684366083190785/photo/1 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1016684366083190785/phot...
rusk 8y ago
> For 9 days without eating and living in their own shit in the dark Not to mention the cold. There's a hero-story about the coach that's yet to be told I reckon.
- _Microft 8y ago
  Somewhere it was mentioned that the temperature in the cave was about 23°C (73°F).
  - rusk 8y ago
    Oh wow. I wouldn't have expected that deep underground in a flooded cave at all!
- SimbaOnSteroids 8y ago
  Caves are generally the average yearly temperature of the area they are found in, also given that the water was rainwater and not spring water I’d imagine that unless the boys were like waste deep in water the entire time they were probably rather warm given the tropical location of Thailand.
- booleandilemma 8y ago
  A story Mark Wahlberg will be happy to tell.
sillysaurus3 8y ago
The coach. He shared what little rations they had, and his condition was visibly worse than the children by the time they were found. He also helped them by teaching them meditation, so as not to focus on their hunger.
- sametmax 8y ago
  > He also helped them by teaching them meditation, so as not to focus on their hunger. Learning meditation is hard. Learning meditation when you are scared, hungry and in such a bad situation is extra hard. So if the guy pulled it off with 12 terrorized famished kids for 9 days, he deserves his own temple.
  - bad_user 8y ago
    People in general are able of amazing deeds under the threat of death. Unfortunately it's why we are able to wage war. Was watching a documentary on the Vietnam war the other day and one guy was describing how he felt like an automaton that was focusing only on survival, which kept him from going insane, while another guy was describing how he felt no pain from his bullet injuries while trying to stay alive alone in the jungle for 3 days, only feeling pain after he was rescued. But yeah, this coach is a hero for sure, I'm so glad they made it out.
    - jvzr 8y ago
      The Vietnam War, by Ken Burns? Watched that episode with the South Vietnam veteran recalling that episode where he was left for dead (literally, by his own allies AND adversaries), crawled through the jungle for 3 days and only then felt the pain and smelled the nasty odor of the rotting flesh.
  - vinceguidry 8y ago
    Not to belittle his accomplishment, but it's the times of great hardship where the search for meaning flourishes. See Viktor Frankl. It is the gift hidden in the horror.
  - 8y ago
senorjazz 8y ago
When contact was first made, they had no idea how long they had been in there and asked "how long have we been here". Sat in the dark, with no night and day, the bodies internal clock gets shot to pieces. They would have had no idea whether they had been there 3 days or 30
- sametmax 8y ago
  Not being able to quantify doesn't mean you don't sufer from it.
cubano 8y ago
People can live over 60 days without food, so maybe that part isn't so unexpected. Water of course is a different story..I believe after 48 hours severe dehydration sets in...after 3 days...kaput.
- sametmax 8y ago
  > People can live over 60 days without food, so maybe that part isn't so unexpected It's not a physiological problem. It's a psychological one. When you ate everyday all your life, not eating is scary. > I believe after 48 hours severe dehydration sets in...after 3 days...kaput. You can live more than 3 days without water. Either with training, of because the conditions help (you don't move much, temperature and humidity are favorable, you don't eat, etc). There are cases were human lived for 9 days without water. But they had water near them so that was out of the equation.
jcranmer 8y ago
> The amazing part to me is that it was 12 kids and one adult. Between the fear and the biological needs, I wonder what kept them alive for so long. You can go a few weeks without food. The cave is likely at a consistent enough temperature that you're not going to freeze to death (sweating is more likely to be your real issue), so the only real constraint is potable water. It's also been commented that the children had no idea they were trapped for as long as 9 days. Quite likely, without any source of natural light, they lost track of time, which certainly would help ease some of the panic.

koolba 8y ago

I bet literally being a team helped out. It's not just a random group of people. They all know each other, they know each other's personalities, and there's a natural cohesion to win (i.e. not die!) together.

sametmax 8y ago
Possibly, especially since they were with a coach. He if kept it up, then it could have helped a lot.

ryanmercer 8y ago

>I'm awaiting for the unavoidable book/movie. Hollywood producers are already on the ground http://www.newsweek.com/hollywood-producers-head-thai-cave-rescue-site-plan-blockbuster-movie-1015501 http://www.newsweek.com/hollywood-producers-head-thai-cave-r...

meowzero 8y ago
It'll probably take place somewhere in the US and white wash it with white actors. Maybe they'll make one of the kids (a girl) Asian to give a little nod to the original story.
- pepy 8y ago
  and that girl will be helping hand - because when she grows up, she wants to be a doctor
bprieto 8y ago
The coach then will be an american living in Thailand, half the team will be girls, the sport will be american football instead of soccer, one of the rescuers will be a woman who happens to be an ex-girlfriend of the coach, there will be a bad guy from the government or some company that wants to leave them in the cave because it's cheaper... and Elon Musk's device will save the day.
- arkitaip 8y ago
  ...And it's already made 400M.
- vinkelhake 8y ago
  The rumor is that The Rock is going to play the coach. Kevin Hart will play all 12 boys.
  - ryanmercer 8y ago
    >The rumor is that The Rock is going to play the coach. Kevin Hart will play all 12 boys. I would actually pay to see this.
- Reedx 8y ago
  Ha, you nailed it. I hate how plausible this is.
- sangnoir 8y ago
  > there will be a bad guy from the government Elon Musk is ahead of you - he has his government villain already: https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1016684366083190785/photo/1 https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1016684366083190785/phot...

rusk 8y ago

> For 9 days without eating and living in their own shit in the dark Not to mention the cold. There's a hero-story about the coach that's yet to be told I reckon.

_Microft 8y ago
Somewhere it was mentioned that the temperature in the cave was about 23°C (73°F).
- rusk 8y ago
  Oh wow. I wouldn't have expected that deep underground in a flooded cave at all!
SimbaOnSteroids 8y ago
Caves are generally the average yearly temperature of the area they are found in, also given that the water was rainwater and not spring water I’d imagine that unless the boys were like waste deep in water the entire time they were probably rather warm given the tropical location of Thailand.
booleandilemma 8y ago
A story Mark Wahlberg will be happy to tell.

sillysaurus3 8y ago

The coach. He shared what little rations they had, and his condition was visibly worse than the children by the time they were found. He also helped them by teaching them meditation, so as not to focus on their hunger.

sametmax 8y ago
> He also helped them by teaching them meditation, so as not to focus on their hunger. Learning meditation is hard. Learning meditation when you are scared, hungry and in such a bad situation is extra hard. So if the guy pulled it off with 12 terrorized famished kids for 9 days, he deserves his own temple.
- bad_user 8y ago
  People in general are able of amazing deeds under the threat of death. Unfortunately it's why we are able to wage war. Was watching a documentary on the Vietnam war the other day and one guy was describing how he felt like an automaton that was focusing only on survival, which kept him from going insane, while another guy was describing how he felt no pain from his bullet injuries while trying to stay alive alone in the jungle for 3 days, only feeling pain after he was rescued. But yeah, this coach is a hero for sure, I'm so glad they made it out.
  - jvzr 8y ago
    The Vietnam War, by Ken Burns? Watched that episode with the South Vietnam veteran recalling that episode where he was left for dead (literally, by his own allies AND adversaries), crawled through the jungle for 3 days and only then felt the pain and smelled the nasty odor of the rotting flesh.
- vinceguidry 8y ago
  Not to belittle his accomplishment, but it's the times of great hardship where the search for meaning flourishes. See Viktor Frankl. It is the gift hidden in the horror.
- 8y ago

senorjazz 8y ago

When contact was first made, they had no idea how long they had been in there and asked "how long have we been here". Sat in the dark, with no night and day, the bodies internal clock gets shot to pieces. They would have had no idea whether they had been there 3 days or 30

sametmax 8y ago
Not being able to quantify doesn't mean you don't sufer from it.

cubano 8y ago

People can live over 60 days without food, so maybe that part isn't so unexpected. Water of course is a different story..I believe after 48 hours severe dehydration sets in...after 3 days...kaput.

sametmax 8y ago
> People can live over 60 days without food, so maybe that part isn't so unexpected It's not a physiological problem. It's a psychological one. When you ate everyday all your life, not eating is scary. > I believe after 48 hours severe dehydration sets in...after 3 days...kaput. You can live more than 3 days without water. Either with training, of because the conditions help (you don't move much, temperature and humidity are favorable, you don't eat, etc). There are cases were human lived for 9 days without water. But they had water near them so that was out of the equation.

jcranmer 8y ago

> The amazing part to me is that it was 12 kids and one adult. Between the fear and the biological needs, I wonder what kept them alive for so long. You can go a few weeks without food. The cave is likely at a consistent enough temperature that you're not going to freeze to death (sweating is more likely to be your real issue), so the only real constraint is potable water. It's also been commented that the children had no idea they were trapped for as long as 9 days. Quite likely, without any source of natural light, they lost track of time, which certainly would help ease some of the panic.