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And so do you, but with the opposite assumptions. Is this going anywhere?

by jf- 8y ago

antris 8y ago
What have I claimed about Musk's intentions or actions? I'm not the one who criticized him, but I have not lauded him for it either. I don't know what's going on at the rescue site nor am I claiming that I know. I'm just seeing Musk trying to help and people claiming (without any evidence) that he has some hidden agenda. Of course he could have a hidden agenda (again I don't know), but I'm not making a claim in either direction, just calling bullshit on people who think they know.
- ofrzeta 8y ago
  Yeah, and while you are doing that you are pulling stuff out of thin air, like the fact that he was asked to help – by some unknown stranger on Twitter. Surely doesn't look like that neutral stance that you are claiming to take.
  - antris 8y ago
    > Yeah, and while you are doing that you are pulling stuff out of thin air, like the fact that he was asked to help – by some unknown stranger on Twitter But he was...? https://twitter.com/MabzMagz/status/1014251869760249856 https://twitter.com/MabzMagz/status/1014251869760249856 What's your problem?
    - ofrzeta 8y ago
      Do you want to prove my point? Well done.
      - antris 8y ago
        You said I pulled it out of thin air. I didn't. What the hell...?
- jf- 8y ago
  From your comments elsewhere in this discussion, your motivation seems pretty clearly to be to defend Elon Musk by inventing the spectre of things he might have done, but very likely did not. And at the same time pretending to be impartial about it.
  - antris 8y ago
    Nah, I'm simply tired of people trashing someone without a reason. The things he might have done are just examples; there's loads of different scenarios that might be true and we don't know really much about it. I'm not speculating, that's what all the shit talkers in this thread are doing. I'm reserving judgment instead of latching onto a forced narrative created by the media outlets with just a few tiny pieces of information that has leaked out of the rescue effort.

And so do you, but with the opposite assumptions. Is this going anywhere?

by jf- 8y ago

And so do you, but with the opposite assumptions. Is this going anywhere?

What have I claimed about Musk's intentions or actions? I'm not the one who criticized him, but I have not lauded him for it either. I don't know what's going on at the rescue site nor am I claiming that I know. I'm just seeing Musk trying to help and people claiming (without any evidence) that he has some hidden agenda. Of course he could have a hidden agenda (again I don't know), but I'm not making a claim in either direction, just calling bullshit on people who think they know.

ofrzeta 8y ago
Yeah, and while you are doing that you are pulling stuff out of thin air, like the fact that he was asked to help – by some unknown stranger on Twitter. Surely doesn't look like that neutral stance that you are claiming to take.
- antris 8y ago
  > Yeah, and while you are doing that you are pulling stuff out of thin air, like the fact that he was asked to help – by some unknown stranger on Twitter But he was...? https://twitter.com/MabzMagz/status/1014251869760249856 https://twitter.com/MabzMagz/status/1014251869760249856 What's your problem?
  - ofrzeta 8y ago
    Do you want to prove my point? Well done.
    - antris 8y ago
      You said I pulled it out of thin air. I didn't. What the hell...?
jf- 8y ago
From your comments elsewhere in this discussion, your motivation seems pretty clearly to be to defend Elon Musk by inventing the spectre of things he might have done, but very likely did not. And at the same time pretending to be impartial about it.
- antris 8y ago
  Nah, I'm simply tired of people trashing someone without a reason. The things he might have done are just examples; there's loads of different scenarios that might be true and we don't know really much about it. I'm not speculating, that's what all the shit talkers in this thread are doing. I'm reserving judgment instead of latching onto a forced narrative created by the media outlets with just a few tiny pieces of information that has leaked out of the rescue effort.