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Lessig is no fan of intellectual property of any form. Apparently he's also not so much for effective contract or the value of someone's word as a bond.

barrkel 16y ago
That's ad hominem BS. He explicitly is against extremist copyright - and I find it difficult to disagree with him re the continuous extensions of copyright terms, and attacks on fair use - but that opposition to extremism also extends to copyright abolitionists: "My real fear is that the last 10 years have unleashed a kind of revolutionary attitude among the generation that will take over in 10 years. And it will be hard for them to distinguish between sensible copyright legislation and the kind that we’ve got right now. So my real fear is we’re going to lose control of this animal... I just want to reform [copyright] to make it make sense." http://techcrunch.com/2008/11/21/larry-lessig-defends-copyright-loves-charlie-rose-remixes/ http://techcrunch.com/2008/11/21/larry-lessig-defends-copyri...
- kiba 16y ago
  So my real fear is we’re going to lose control of this animal... I just want to reform [copyright] to make it make sense. As one of those "revolutionary", I thought any possibility of sensible copyright reform is utterly silly and impossible. Instead, I thought the business case will determine the survivability of copyright as an institution in Western civilization. In my opinion, the laws will cramp down on those pirateers, but in reality will not drain out the revolutionary impulse. Piracy is not a revolutionary act. It is an act that support the copyright interest, but not the interest of anti-copyright. The Pirate Party are not revolutionaries, but reformers. Nor are they're a bunch of people who want free musics as far as I know. Instead, the revolutionary spirit seem to be embodied in anarchistic techno-libertarianism that infect some of our fellow hackers. Lessig have nothing to fear from the current population revolting. In my experience, most young people actually have no opinion on intellectual property right. It is probable that once young people actually have money, they'll just purchase musics out of convenience. I tend to find that copyright abolitionism has won most people on the techno-libertarianism spectrum. You're more likely to see them concocting business models and engaging in counter-economic activities rather than concocting silly legislative effort.
  - chopsueyar 16y ago
    If you haven't read this, you would enjoy it: http://www.amazon.com/Common-Air-Revolution-Art-Ownership/dp/0374223130 http://www.amazon.com/Common-Air-Revolution-Art-Ownership/dp...
anigbrowl 16y ago
I had always thought his basic idea was to reduce the concept of copyright back to a 'limited term' of something less than a human lifespan, and to promote alternative things like Creative Commons or one or other of the open source licenses. I haven't looked at any of his more recent books, perhaps he has to stake out ever more radical positions to up the stakes? Anyway, this seems like publicity-surfing more than anything else. I suppose if I turn on the TV tomorrow it'll be the #1 movie in America or something.

barrkel 16y ago

That's ad hominem BS. He explicitly is against extremist copyright - and I find it difficult to disagree with him re the continuous extensions of copyright terms, and attacks on fair use - but that opposition to extremism also extends to copyright abolitionists: "My real fear is that the last 10 years have unleashed a kind of revolutionary attitude among the generation that will take over in 10 years. And it will be hard for them to distinguish between sensible copyright legislation and the kind that we’ve got right now. So my real fear is we’re going to lose control of this animal... I just want to reform [copyright] to make it make sense." http://techcrunch.com/2008/11/21/larry-lessig-defends-copyright-loves-charlie-rose-remixes/ http://techcrunch.com/2008/11/21/larry-lessig-defends-copyri...

kiba 16y ago
So my real fear is we’re going to lose control of this animal... I just want to reform [copyright] to make it make sense. As one of those "revolutionary", I thought any possibility of sensible copyright reform is utterly silly and impossible. Instead, I thought the business case will determine the survivability of copyright as an institution in Western civilization. In my opinion, the laws will cramp down on those pirateers, but in reality will not drain out the revolutionary impulse. Piracy is not a revolutionary act. It is an act that support the copyright interest, but not the interest of anti-copyright. The Pirate Party are not revolutionaries, but reformers. Nor are they're a bunch of people who want free musics as far as I know. Instead, the revolutionary spirit seem to be embodied in anarchistic techno-libertarianism that infect some of our fellow hackers. Lessig have nothing to fear from the current population revolting. In my experience, most young people actually have no opinion on intellectual property right. It is probable that once young people actually have money, they'll just purchase musics out of convenience. I tend to find that copyright abolitionism has won most people on the techno-libertarianism spectrum. You're more likely to see them concocting business models and engaging in counter-economic activities rather than concocting silly legislative effort.
- chopsueyar 16y ago
  If you haven't read this, you would enjoy it: http://www.amazon.com/Common-Air-Revolution-Art-Ownership/dp/0374223130 http://www.amazon.com/Common-Air-Revolution-Art-Ownership/dp...

anigbrowl 16y ago

I had always thought his basic idea was to reduce the concept of copyright back to a 'limited term' of something less than a human lifespan, and to promote alternative things like Creative Commons or one or other of the open source licenses. I haven't looked at any of his more recent books, perhaps he has to stake out ever more radical positions to up the stakes? Anyway, this seems like publicity-surfing more than anything else. I suppose if I turn on the TV tomorrow it'll be the #1 movie in America or something.