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A little common sense here. He’s trying to develop a de novo hardware solution in short time. If you wanted to help, you’d buy/rent top of the line drysuits wit

by jf- 8y ago

A little common sense here. He’s trying to develop a de novo hardware solution in short time. If you wanted to help, you’d buy/rent top of the line drysuits with helmets, send those through with instructors and be done with it. You probably wouldn’t decide to start on hardware development.

antris 8y ago
Where did you get the idea they were short on money or rescue equipment and/or Elon Musk hasn't rented or bought them rescue gear?
- jf- 8y ago
  There’s no evidence for anything other than the submarine, and he really isn’t shy about announcing these things.
  - antris 8y ago
    The lack of evidence or tweets doesn't mean that Musk didn't help them in other ways.
    - jf- 8y ago
      You’ll forgive me for not relying on faith.
      - antris 8y ago
        I am not asking you to rely on faith, I'm simply asking you to drop your faith on "knowing" what goes on at the site and in Musk's mind and admit that you simply don't know.
laurent123456 8y ago
I remember they said at some point that the children could not be rescued with diving equipment because it's dark, they are not experienced divers and they might panic under water. Maybe his solution to build a submarine instead comes from there?
codeulike 8y ago
They already have that stuff (drysuits). Thailand is not a poor country and they do a lot of diving. You are talking about a situation you don't understand while accusing musk (who actually talked to people on the ground) of not understanding. Musk builds things, that's why he was asked to help and that's why he built a thing.
- jf- 8y ago
  I’m going to have to respectfully disagree. I can’t read the guy’s mind, but my instincts point towards publicity stunt. I doubt arguing further is going to change anyone’s opinion.
  - codeulike 8y ago
    Tbh I think it's more like a displacement activity, albeit a worthy one. I am surprised that he visited in person.
  - antris 8y ago
    > I can’t read the guy’s mind Yet you write as if you could.
    - jf- 8y ago
      And so do you, but with the opposite assumptions. Is this going anywhere?
      - antris 8y ago
        What have I claimed about Musk's intentions or actions? I'm not the one who criticized him, but I have not lauded him for it either. I don't know what's going on at the rescue site nor am I claiming that I know. I'm just seeing Musk trying to help and people claiming (without any evidence) that he has some hidden agenda. Of course he could have a hidden agenda (again I don't know), but I'm not making a claim in either direction, just calling bullshit on people who think they know.

by jf- 8y ago

antris 8y ago

Where did you get the idea they were short on money or rescue equipment and/or Elon Musk hasn't rented or bought them rescue gear?

jf- 8y ago
There’s no evidence for anything other than the submarine, and he really isn’t shy about announcing these things.
- antris 8y ago
  The lack of evidence or tweets doesn't mean that Musk didn't help them in other ways.
  - jf- 8y ago
    You’ll forgive me for not relying on faith.
    - antris 8y ago
      I am not asking you to rely on faith, I'm simply asking you to drop your faith on "knowing" what goes on at the site and in Musk's mind and admit that you simply don't know.

laurent123456 8y ago

I remember they said at some point that the children could not be rescued with diving equipment because it's dark, they are not experienced divers and they might panic under water. Maybe his solution to build a submarine instead comes from there?

codeulike 8y ago

They already have that stuff (drysuits). Thailand is not a poor country and they do a lot of diving. You are talking about a situation you don't understand while accusing musk (who actually talked to people on the ground) of not understanding. Musk builds things, that's why he was asked to help and that's why he built a thing.

jf- 8y ago
I’m going to have to respectfully disagree. I can’t read the guy’s mind, but my instincts point towards publicity stunt. I doubt arguing further is going to change anyone’s opinion.
- codeulike 8y ago
  Tbh I think it's more like a displacement activity, albeit a worthy one. I am surprised that he visited in person.
- antris 8y ago
  > I can’t read the guy’s mind Yet you write as if you could.
  - jf- 8y ago
    And so do you, but with the opposite assumptions. Is this going anywhere?
    - antris 8y ago
      What have I claimed about Musk's intentions or actions? I'm not the one who criticized him, but I have not lauded him for it either. I don't know what's going on at the rescue site nor am I claiming that I know. I'm just seeing Musk trying to help and people claiming (without any evidence) that he has some hidden agenda. Of course he could have a hidden agenda (again I don't know), but I'm not making a claim in either direction, just calling bullshit on people who think they know.