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A Mensa for programmers sounds like a good idea. I'm in favor of mandatory licensing requirements for commercial developers, but in lieu of that, maybe a socie

A Mensa for programmers sounds like a good idea. I'm in favor of mandatory licensing requirements for commercial developers, but in lieu of that, maybe a society of competent programmers would highlight the difference between those who can and those who can't program. But I foresee difficulties in keeping membership pure; for instance, how would we ensure it doesn't devolve into people paying to get in?

swombat 18y ago
Well, many other professions have solved the "how to stop the profession from being diluted" dilemma. No need to reinvent the wheel - just have a formal, oral entrance interview administered by respected members of the community..
- KiwiNige 18y ago
  Crap Dentists, Lawyers and Doctors still exist; In my experience in simalar porportions to Mechanics, Real Estate Agents and Recuting Agents
  - swombat 18y ago
    But not in the same proportion as software engineers :-) it's 10% vs 60% (imho). Also, a crap dentist might not be great, but he's not actually going to rip all your teeth out by mistake while taking an x-ray. The dentistry exams and associations do guarantee at least a baseline level of competence, which is what we're trying to establish here.
- hacklite 18y ago
  Can't legislate competence. Feynman resigned from the National Academy of Sciences, "because that was another organization most of whose time was spent in choosing who was illustrious enough to join, to be allowed to join us in our organization [...] The whole thing was rotten because its purpose was mostly to decide who could have this honor [...]" Well, he tried to resign but they wouldn't let him because they didn't want to lose someone of his stature!
  - swombat 18y ago
    From the sound of it the NAS was trying to legislate greatness rather than competence. I'd agree that you can't legislate greatness, but you can definitely legislate competence, so long as you set the bar at a reasonable level.
    - hacklite 18y ago
      Examples? There are plenty of incompetent doctors, and that's about as high a bar as there is.

swombat 18y ago

Well, many other professions have solved the "how to stop the profession from being diluted" dilemma. No need to reinvent the wheel - just have a formal, oral entrance interview administered by respected members of the community..

KiwiNige 18y ago
Crap Dentists, Lawyers and Doctors still exist; In my experience in simalar porportions to Mechanics, Real Estate Agents and Recuting Agents
- swombat 18y ago
  But not in the same proportion as software engineers :-) it's 10% vs 60% (imho). Also, a crap dentist might not be great, but he's not actually going to rip all your teeth out by mistake while taking an x-ray. The dentistry exams and associations do guarantee at least a baseline level of competence, which is what we're trying to establish here.
hacklite 18y ago
Can't legislate competence. Feynman resigned from the National Academy of Sciences, "because that was another organization most of whose time was spent in choosing who was illustrious enough to join, to be allowed to join us in our organization [...] The whole thing was rotten because its purpose was mostly to decide who could have this honor [...]" Well, he tried to resign but they wouldn't let him because they didn't want to lose someone of his stature!
- swombat 18y ago
  From the sound of it the NAS was trying to legislate greatness rather than competence. I'd agree that you can't legislate greatness, but you can definitely legislate competence, so long as you set the bar at a reasonable level.
  - hacklite 18y ago
    Examples? There are plenty of incompetent doctors, and that's about as high a bar as there is.