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"Contrails occur differently at different altitudes due to temperature gradients." Thanks. I'll look into this. "Multi billion?" That's the budget. "For che

"Contrails occur differently at different altitudes due to temperature gradients." Thanks. I'll look into this. "Multi billion?" That's the budget. "For chemtrails to be real it's a multi-trillion dollar undertaking." That's a figure you've pulled out of your behind. "A 787 contains around 33,000 gallons of fuel, or about 162 tonnes." Naphtha-kerosene's already a blend. "And why? For what? Who benefits?" Are you going to verify the phenomena for yourself?

astrodust 8y ago
> That's a figure you've pulled out of your behind. Oh, and your "multi-billion" budget is real? You know what that gets you in terms of aviation? A handful of planes for less than a year. What part of fucking expensive don't you understand? Running a commercial jet is so expensive you'd be hard pressed to flush stacks of $100 bills down the toilet as fast as a typical jet consumes an equivalent amount in fuel. These planes cost in excess of $25,000 USD per hour to keep in the air. Airlines are notoriously cheap and always push for maximum efficiency. They installed winglets to save 5% in fuel costs. They install seats an inch closer to fit another row of seats in. Now you're telling me they're willingly lugging around millions of tons of this chemtrail stuff just because? You've pulled this entire nonsense out of your ass. Chemtrails have zero plausibility due to how massive an undertaking it would be to make that happen. The closest "conspiracy" to this was the use of Agent Orange in Vietnam. That was exposed within years of the first spraying. It was thoroughly documented. It was too big an undertaking to hide. Now you want me to believe that this is a worldwide phenomenon and nobody, absolutely nobody, has ever found any hard evidence? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Come back when you have some. Stop doing lines of YouTube videos and visit the real world once in a while.
- LukeB42 8y ago
  "Oh, and your "multi-billion" budget is real?" Yup. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23903310 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23903310 "Now you're telling me they're willingly lugging around millions of tons of this chemtrail stuff just because?" No dude, I'm telling you they're doing it for money. "You've pulled this entire nonsense out of your ass. Chemtrails have zero plausibility due to how massive an undertaking it would be to make that happen." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury#Project_Cirrus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury#Project_Cirr... "Now you want me to believe that this is a worldwide phenomenon and nobody, absolutely nobody, has ever found any hard evidence?" I'm here talking with you about it. I even have footage of this stuff on video. Sent you some like 20 minutes ago. Did the chemtrail program start in your lifetime or is it something you've been forced to inherit?
  - dang 8y ago
    You've taken this thread into a badly off-topic flamewar. We ban accounts that do that, so please stop now and please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- dang 8y ago
  Getting uncivil and perpetuating a flamewar are bad things to do here even if you didn't start it. Please stop. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
  - astrodust 8y ago
    Sorry about that, you're right.
reitanqild 8y ago
Hi LukeB42 :-) A number of people here are trying to help you. Many of us have real life experience (me from sw engineering, large distributed systems, parts of security), others from aviation etc. I agree with the rest here: I'd say there's no way such an operation could be hidden. While I could be wrong, - it seems I was wrong about the depths of the capabilities of NSA etc, I'm more often right than wrong it seems. If there is a conspiracy going on then I'd say it is to keep people busy with this instead of the huge global issues we should see: the west meddling in the middle east, millions of refugees, huge health problems (both because of obesity and because of lack if food).

astrodust 8y ago

> That's a figure you've pulled out of your behind. Oh, and your "multi-billion" budget is real? You know what that gets you in terms of aviation? A handful of planes for less than a year. What part of fucking expensive don't you understand? Running a commercial jet is so expensive you'd be hard pressed to flush stacks of $100 bills down the toilet as fast as a typical jet consumes an equivalent amount in fuel. These planes cost in excess of $25,000 USD per hour to keep in the air. Airlines are notoriously cheap and always push for maximum efficiency. They installed winglets to save 5% in fuel costs. They install seats an inch closer to fit another row of seats in. Now you're telling me they're willingly lugging around millions of tons of this chemtrail stuff just because? You've pulled this entire nonsense out of your ass. Chemtrails have zero plausibility due to how massive an undertaking it would be to make that happen. The closest "conspiracy" to this was the use of Agent Orange in Vietnam. That was exposed within years of the first spraying. It was thoroughly documented. It was too big an undertaking to hide. Now you want me to believe that this is a worldwide phenomenon and nobody, absolutely nobody, has ever found any hard evidence? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Come back when you have some. Stop doing lines of YouTube videos and visit the real world once in a while.

LukeB42 8y ago
"Oh, and your "multi-billion" budget is real?" Yup. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23903310 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23903310 "Now you're telling me they're willingly lugging around millions of tons of this chemtrail stuff just because?" No dude, I'm telling you they're doing it for money. "You've pulled this entire nonsense out of your ass. Chemtrails have zero plausibility due to how massive an undertaking it would be to make that happen." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury#Project_Cirrus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury#Project_Cirr... "Now you want me to believe that this is a worldwide phenomenon and nobody, absolutely nobody, has ever found any hard evidence?" I'm here talking with you about it. I even have footage of this stuff on video. Sent you some like 20 minutes ago. Did the chemtrail program start in your lifetime or is it something you've been forced to inherit?
- dang 8y ago
  You've taken this thread into a badly off-topic flamewar. We ban accounts that do that, so please stop now and please don't do it again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
dang 8y ago
Getting uncivil and perpetuating a flamewar are bad things to do here even if you didn't start it. Please stop. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- astrodust 8y ago
  Sorry about that, you're right.

reitanqild 8y ago

Hi LukeB42 :-) A number of people here are trying to help you. Many of us have real life experience (me from sw engineering, large distributed systems, parts of security), others from aviation etc. I agree with the rest here: I'd say there's no way such an operation could be hidden. While I could be wrong, - it seems I was wrong about the depths of the capabilities of NSA etc, I'm more often right than wrong it seems. If there is a conspiracy going on then I'd say it is to keep people busy with this instead of the huge global issues we should see: the west meddling in the middle east, millions of refugees, huge health problems (both because of obesity and because of lack if food).