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There's absolutely no scientific basis at all for chemtrails. If these were real the cost would be staggering in terms of equipment, supplies, and of course, u

There's absolutely no scientific basis at all for chemtrails. If these were real the cost would be staggering in terms of equipment, supplies, and of course, unbelievable amounts of hush money paid out every single day to keep a lid on the conspiracy. Just as there's things too big to fail, there's conspiracies too grandiose to be real. They'd collapse under their own weight. Do you honestly think in an age where terabytes of data can be stolen by insiders and outsiders alike that something as massive as chemtrails can be kept under wraps?

LukeB42 8y ago
Here's some empirical evidence of chemtrails, in case this is the first of its kind that you've ever received I also suggest paying attention to the sky in your local neighbourhood at around 6am and 6pm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFL4ogRm3yc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFL4ogRm3yc Saying "conspiracies too grandiose to be real" may be akin to saying "organization too grandiose to be real" when only talking about one program within a multi billion dollar black budget. That said there are indeed grandiose conspiracies that do make chemtrails look simple by comparison: https://i.imgur.com/SbCArRO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/SbCArRO.jpg
- astrodust 8y ago
  That "empirical evidence" is a load of garbage. Contrails occur differently at different altitudes due to temperature gradients. Anyone who's been up in a small plane or who's climbed a mountain knows this. Planes are also "stacked" at different altitudes (flight level) to simplify controller operations, anyone who's casually observed local airport activity knows this. You really need to read up because this YouTube junk is poisoning your ability to think rationally. Now multi-billion? No. For chemtrails to be real it's a multi-trillion dollar undertaking. Nothing in aviation is cheap. Everything is unbelievably expensive. In order to produce "chemtrails" that have the same volume as contrails you would need to have an equivalent amount of whatever loaded into tanks as there is fuel. Do you have any idea how much fuel is loaded into a passenger plane? It's tons. A 787 contains around 33,000 gallons of fuel, or about 162 tonnes. Now you're telling me they have to sneak on another ~160 tons of chemtrail stuff somehow without anyone noticing? And why? For what? Who benefits?
  - LukeB42 8y ago
    "Contrails occur differently at different altitudes due to temperature gradients." Thanks. I'll look into this. "Multi billion?" That's the budget. "For chemtrails to be real it's a multi-trillion dollar undertaking." That's a figure you've pulled out of your behind. "A 787 contains around 33,000 gallons of fuel, or about 162 tonnes." Naphtha-kerosene's already a blend. "And why? For what? Who benefits?" Are you going to verify the phenomena for yourself?
    - astrodust 8y ago
      > That's a figure you've pulled out of your behind. Oh, and your "multi-billion" budget is real? You know what that gets you in terms of aviation? A handful of planes for less than a year. What part of fucking expensive don't you understand? Running a commercial jet is so expensive you'd be hard pressed to flush stacks of $100 bills down the toilet as fast as a typical jet consumes an equivalent amount in fuel. These planes cost in excess of $25,000 USD per hour to keep in the air. Airlines are notoriously cheap and always push for maximum efficiency. They installed winglets to save 5% in fuel costs. They install seats an inch closer to fit another row of seats in. Now you're telling me they're willingly lugging around millions of tons of this chemtrail stuff just because? You've pulled this entire nonsense out of your ass. Chemtrails have zero plausibility due to how massive an undertaking it would be to make that happen. The closest "conspiracy" to this was the use of Agent Orange in Vietnam. That was exposed within years of the first spraying. It was thoroughly documented. It was too big an undertaking to hide. Now you want me to believe that this is a worldwide phenomenon and nobody, absolutely nobody, has ever found any hard evidence? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Come back when you have some. Stop doing lines of YouTube videos and visit the real world once in a while.
      - LukeB42 8y ago
        "Oh, and your "multi-billion" budget is real?" Yup. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23903310 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23903310 "Now you're telling me they're willingly lugging around millions of tons of this chemtrail stuff just because?" No dude, I'm telling you they're doing it for money. "You've pulled this entire nonsense out of your ass. Chemtrails have zero plausibility due to how massive an undertaking it would be to make that happen." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury#Project_Cirrus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury#Project_Cirr... "Now you want me to believe that this is a worldwide phenomenon and nobody, absolutely nobody, has ever found any hard evidence?" I'm here talking with you about it. I even have footage of this stuff on video. Sent you some like 20 minutes ago. Did the chemtrail program start in your lifetime or is it something you've been forced to inherit?

LukeB42 8y ago

Here's some empirical evidence of chemtrails, in case this is the first of its kind that you've ever received I also suggest paying attention to the sky in your local neighbourhood at around 6am and 6pm. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFL4ogRm3yc https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FFL4ogRm3yc Saying "conspiracies too grandiose to be real" may be akin to saying "organization too grandiose to be real" when only talking about one program within a multi billion dollar black budget. That said there are indeed grandiose conspiracies that do make chemtrails look simple by comparison: https://i.imgur.com/SbCArRO.jpg https://i.imgur.com/SbCArRO.jpg

astrodust 8y ago
That "empirical evidence" is a load of garbage. Contrails occur differently at different altitudes due to temperature gradients. Anyone who's been up in a small plane or who's climbed a mountain knows this. Planes are also "stacked" at different altitudes (flight level) to simplify controller operations, anyone who's casually observed local airport activity knows this. You really need to read up because this YouTube junk is poisoning your ability to think rationally. Now multi-billion? No. For chemtrails to be real it's a multi-trillion dollar undertaking. Nothing in aviation is cheap. Everything is unbelievably expensive. In order to produce "chemtrails" that have the same volume as contrails you would need to have an equivalent amount of whatever loaded into tanks as there is fuel. Do you have any idea how much fuel is loaded into a passenger plane? It's tons. A 787 contains around 33,000 gallons of fuel, or about 162 tonnes. Now you're telling me they have to sneak on another ~160 tons of chemtrail stuff somehow without anyone noticing? And why? For what? Who benefits?
- LukeB42 8y ago
  "Contrails occur differently at different altitudes due to temperature gradients." Thanks. I'll look into this. "Multi billion?" That's the budget. "For chemtrails to be real it's a multi-trillion dollar undertaking." That's a figure you've pulled out of your behind. "A 787 contains around 33,000 gallons of fuel, or about 162 tonnes." Naphtha-kerosene's already a blend. "And why? For what? Who benefits?" Are you going to verify the phenomena for yourself?
  - astrodust 8y ago
    > That's a figure you've pulled out of your behind. Oh, and your "multi-billion" budget is real? You know what that gets you in terms of aviation? A handful of planes for less than a year. What part of fucking expensive don't you understand? Running a commercial jet is so expensive you'd be hard pressed to flush stacks of $100 bills down the toilet as fast as a typical jet consumes an equivalent amount in fuel. These planes cost in excess of $25,000 USD per hour to keep in the air. Airlines are notoriously cheap and always push for maximum efficiency. They installed winglets to save 5% in fuel costs. They install seats an inch closer to fit another row of seats in. Now you're telling me they're willingly lugging around millions of tons of this chemtrail stuff just because? You've pulled this entire nonsense out of your ass. Chemtrails have zero plausibility due to how massive an undertaking it would be to make that happen. The closest "conspiracy" to this was the use of Agent Orange in Vietnam. That was exposed within years of the first spraying. It was thoroughly documented. It was too big an undertaking to hide. Now you want me to believe that this is a worldwide phenomenon and nobody, absolutely nobody, has ever found any hard evidence? Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. Come back when you have some. Stop doing lines of YouTube videos and visit the real world once in a while.
    - LukeB42 8y ago
      "Oh, and your "multi-billion" budget is real?" Yup. https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23903310 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-23903310 "Now you're telling me they're willingly lugging around millions of tons of this chemtrail stuff just because?" No dude, I'm telling you they're doing it for money. "You've pulled this entire nonsense out of your ass. Chemtrails have zero plausibility due to how massive an undertaking it would be to make that happen." https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury#Project_Cirrus https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Stormfury#Project_Cirr... "Now you want me to believe that this is a worldwide phenomenon and nobody, absolutely nobody, has ever found any hard evidence?" I'm here talking with you about it. I even have footage of this stuff on video. Sent you some like 20 minutes ago. Did the chemtrail program start in your lifetime or is it something you've been forced to inherit?