> So kudos to you for not relagating the kid to non-person status like that. I was raised to do as I was told, sit quietly and speak when spoken to in company

> So kudos to you for not relagating the kid to non-person status like that. I was raised to do as I was told, sit quietly and speak when spoken to in company. It did me no harm whatsoever, and meant I could behave in public without constantly demanding attention. There is a difference between expecting a child to behave properly in company, and neglecting to interact with them at all.