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You say ripoff, but its more like improvements of products. Everybody steals ideas from everybody, thats how it works. Otherwise cars would only exist in the US

You say ripoff, but its more like improvements of products. Everybody steals ideas from everybody, thats how it works. Otherwise cars would only exist in the US. Japan was winning that war until US dropped the atomic bombs and killed a lot of innocent people. Im not sure how that is something to be proud of.

antt 8y ago
>Japan was winning that war until US dropped the atomic bombs and killed a lot of innocent people. That's some odd definition of winning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_1rzp2YVxQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_1rzp2YVxQ
abrichr 8y ago
> Japan was winning that war until US dropped the atomic bombs Got a source? I’m on mobile so it’s difficult to provide links, but a quick Google search seems to disagree.
- olavk 8y ago
  It is bullshit. At the time of the bombs it had long been clear that Japan was losing. The only question was how drawn-out the end game would be.
older 8y ago
> Otherwise cars would only exist in the US. In France or in Germany: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_automobile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_automobile
glenndebacker 8y ago
I don't know how you are modded down because the irony is that the whole situation is historical speaking very hypocritical. Was it not for Samuel Slater that "stole" British inventions without regards for patents and improved further on them, he would not be regarded as "the father of the American Industrial Revolution".
oblio 8y ago
Ever heard of those pesky Daimler and Benz guys? Or that Otto dude? They weren't American :))))
michaelmrose 8y ago
Between 1937 and 1945 Japan invaded china massacring hundreds of thousands of civilians and joined a monster in his murderous crusade to take over the world in the hopes that some of the spoils would stick to their hands. In the course of the war 50-80 million died. Their people consistently showed a lack of humanity and even basic decency. War crimes were common. They ate our gis. In Unit 731 their biological warfare research unit they performed experiments as horrifying as Mengle on innocent chinese civilians and prisoners of war. https://unit731.org/ https://unit731.org/ These people were infected with biological agents and many were dissected screaming while they were alive. The Japanese must ultimately be accountable for their leaders actions as we are. It would be morally wrong to kill unnecessarily but if blood had to be shed to stop the spread of evil I think it was just that it was the blood of the guilty. I find it interesting that nationalists from your nation have convinced you Japan was winning they weren't they were being driven back and the war was coming to their shores. They were by dint of inferior production capabilities and resources doomed to lose the war by the time the bombs were dropped although it is certain they would have fought furiously civilian and military alike. The big question in fact is was dropping the bomb necessary or would it have been feasible to secure japans surrender without spending more blood from both sides than would be lost in the bombing.
- h1d 8y ago
  Is this place history class or CPU article comment?
  - aldoushuxley001 8y ago
    Both! And much more, that's the beauty of comment sections.
- bigbluedots 8y ago
  'The Japanese must ultimately be accountable for their leaders actions as we are.' Who is 'we'? Most if not all countries have done horrible things to people, directly or by sponsoring others. Are you accountable for those done in your name?
tssva 8y ago
If you think Japan was winning that war before the atomic bomb was dropped you need some serious history lessons.
michaelmrose 8y ago
I'm still curious to see if you would like to argue that that Japan was winning OR that the bombing was unjust. It would be interesting because the former is utterly unsupportable and the latter argument always rests on abandoning your first point and arguing that Japan would have surrendered without blowing up its cities. If you wish to hold onto the fiction that Japan was winning you are literally arguing that an evil empire allied with the nazis taking over the world is a superior outcome compared to Japan losing the population of 2 cities.

antt 8y ago

>Japan was winning that war until US dropped the atomic bombs and killed a lot of innocent people. That's some odd definition of winning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_1rzp2YVxQ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_1rzp2YVxQ

abrichr 8y ago

> Japan was winning that war until US dropped the atomic bombs Got a source? I’m on mobile so it’s difficult to provide links, but a quick Google search seems to disagree.

olavk 8y ago
It is bullshit. At the time of the bombs it had long been clear that Japan was losing. The only question was how drawn-out the end game would be.

older 8y ago

> Otherwise cars would only exist in the US. In France or in Germany: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_automobile https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_automobile

glenndebacker 8y ago

I don't know how you are modded down because the irony is that the whole situation is historical speaking very hypocritical. Was it not for Samuel Slater that "stole" British inventions without regards for patents and improved further on them, he would not be regarded as "the father of the American Industrial Revolution".

oblio 8y ago

Ever heard of those pesky Daimler and Benz guys? Or that Otto dude? They weren't American :))))

michaelmrose 8y ago

Between 1937 and 1945 Japan invaded china massacring hundreds of thousands of civilians and joined a monster in his murderous crusade to take over the world in the hopes that some of the spoils would stick to their hands. In the course of the war 50-80 million died. Their people consistently showed a lack of humanity and even basic decency. War crimes were common. They ate our gis. In Unit 731 their biological warfare research unit they performed experiments as horrifying as Mengle on innocent chinese civilians and prisoners of war. https://unit731.org/ https://unit731.org/ These people were infected with biological agents and many were dissected screaming while they were alive. The Japanese must ultimately be accountable for their leaders actions as we are. It would be morally wrong to kill unnecessarily but if blood had to be shed to stop the spread of evil I think it was just that it was the blood of the guilty. I find it interesting that nationalists from your nation have convinced you Japan was winning they weren't they were being driven back and the war was coming to their shores. They were by dint of inferior production capabilities and resources doomed to lose the war by the time the bombs were dropped although it is certain they would have fought furiously civilian and military alike. The big question in fact is was dropping the bomb necessary or would it have been feasible to secure japans surrender without spending more blood from both sides than would be lost in the bombing.

h1d 8y ago
Is this place history class or CPU article comment?
- aldoushuxley001 8y ago
  Both! And much more, that's the beauty of comment sections.
bigbluedots 8y ago
'The Japanese must ultimately be accountable for their leaders actions as we are.' Who is 'we'? Most if not all countries have done horrible things to people, directly or by sponsoring others. Are you accountable for those done in your name?

tssva 8y ago

If you think Japan was winning that war before the atomic bomb was dropped you need some serious history lessons.

michaelmrose 8y ago

I'm still curious to see if you would like to argue that that Japan was winning OR that the bombing was unjust. It would be interesting because the former is utterly unsupportable and the latter argument always rests on abandoning your first point and arguing that Japan would have surrendered without blowing up its cities. If you wish to hold onto the fiction that Japan was winning you are literally arguing that an evil empire allied with the nazis taking over the world is a superior outcome compared to Japan losing the population of 2 cities.