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You're just as likely to see a keyboard instrument with 25, 37, 49, 61, 73, or 76 keys as you are 88 these days. Pitch and mod wheels are also a staple of certa

You're just as likely to see a keyboard instrument with 25, 37, 49, 61, 73, or 76 keys as you are 88 these days. Pitch and mod wheels are also a staple of certain kinds of keyboard instruments. Aftertouch adds pressure sensors. The most advanced form of the keyboard interface at the moment would probably be the ROLI seaboard [1]. I do expect that the 88 key piano will be a staple of music for a long, long time, but I'm not sure I would call it's interface timeless seeing as it's still being modified and adapted to this day. [1] https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SeaboardG-61--roli-seaboard-grand-stage https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SeaboardG-61--roli-s...

slaymaker1907 8y ago
I think the principle is still correct considering how much the basic keyboard interface has remained the same.
jacquesm 8y ago
And yet, some random composer or musician from 100's of years ago (Say, one F. Chopin or J.S. Bach) transported to today would have absolutely no problem recognizing and using the instrument.
- wilsonnb2 8y ago
  That's also true. The interface is in fact much older than the piano, having first been used on harpsichords, clavichords, and (I think) pipe organs. If I'm not mistaken, the black+white keyboard we use today was invented around the 1400's. The piano itself dates back only to the 1700's. I can see the argument for the keyboard being a timeless UI because it's lasted mostly unchanged for about 600 years now. I can also see the argument that 600 years isn't that long in the scheme of musical instruments. We've found ancient flutes from at least 30,000 years ago. The lyre, popular in ancient Greece, is not that different from a modern harp. Lutes are thought to have been present in Mesopotamia around 3000 BC. Site note - I was surprised to learn that Bach lived before the piano became popular and apparently did not endorse the instrument until a few years before his death [1]. He would be familiar with the interface from earlier instruments, though. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano#Early_fortepiano https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano#Early_fortepiano
  - jacquesm 8y ago
    Bach composed for the Harpsichord as well as the pipe organ and was instrumental (pun intended) in bringing about the modern day piano.
posamari 8y ago
Offtopic: > The most advanced form of the keyboard interface at the moment would probably be the ROLI seaboard. Arguably. Some like that it brings new possibilities, others highlight that it comes at a price. Just like some would call Macbook Pro's Touchbar the most advanced laptop keyboard interface and some wouldn't.

slaymaker1907 8y ago

I think the principle is still correct considering how much the basic keyboard interface has remained the same.

jacquesm 8y ago

And yet, some random composer or musician from 100's of years ago (Say, one F. Chopin or J.S. Bach) transported to today would have absolutely no problem recognizing and using the instrument.

wilsonnb2 8y ago
That's also true. The interface is in fact much older than the piano, having first been used on harpsichords, clavichords, and (I think) pipe organs. If I'm not mistaken, the black+white keyboard we use today was invented around the 1400's. The piano itself dates back only to the 1700's. I can see the argument for the keyboard being a timeless UI because it's lasted mostly unchanged for about 600 years now. I can also see the argument that 600 years isn't that long in the scheme of musical instruments. We've found ancient flutes from at least 30,000 years ago. The lyre, popular in ancient Greece, is not that different from a modern harp. Lutes are thought to have been present in Mesopotamia around 3000 BC. Site note - I was surprised to learn that Bach lived before the piano became popular and apparently did not endorse the instrument until a few years before his death [1]. He would be familiar with the interface from earlier instruments, though. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano#Early_fortepiano https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Piano#Early_fortepiano
- jacquesm 8y ago
  Bach composed for the Harpsichord as well as the pipe organ and was instrumental (pun intended) in bringing about the modern day piano.

posamari 8y ago

Offtopic: > The most advanced form of the keyboard interface at the moment would probably be the ROLI seaboard. Arguably. Some like that it brings new possibilities, others highlight that it comes at a price. Just like some would call Macbook Pro's Touchbar the most advanced laptop keyboard interface and some wouldn't.