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This sort of thinking is hilarious, you've got admit. The most immediate example here is the gay marriage debate. It goes like this: Conservative: Gay people
by dnomad 8y ago
This sort of thinking is hilarious, you've got admit.
The most immediate example here is the gay marriage debate. It goes like this:
Conservative: Gay people shouldn't be denied marriage to the people they love.
Liberal: That position is pure fucking evil and you're a terrible person for believing such.
Conservative: Why are liberals so mean?
Of course the classic case of conservatives insisting that liberals are "uncivil" was during the actual civil rights movement. Oh how all the protests and speeches incensed people. To this day there's still many people who believe that the 60s protest movements for equal rights... somehow broke the West.
None of this is new or particularly interesting. The heroic defenders of the status quo have always played this card. The more horrific position held up to and including, say, whether certain people should be allowed to exist, the stronger the calls for "civility" and "calm, reasonable debate."
What's interesting here is perhaps the speed of Twitter. This dynamic no longer plays out in weekly newspaper columns. Now people get called out for their evil beliefs (and have no doubt, they are evil in the only meaningful sense of the word) in a matter of minutes.
> This behavior is creating a world in which problems and conflict are just going to get worse, not reach resolution.
That doesn't appear to be the case at all. It turns out that speaking up early and often does indeed work to, say, stop the government from destroying families. Certainly it seems far more effective than anything else proposed including "civil" debate.
- DanielBMarkham 8y agoIt is pretty funny. The people wanting us to be polite are always the ones getting in the way of finding solutions. That's because as it turns out, it's quite rude to have to re-think your worldview! No doubt there are some nice tactical wins. For each of those, my money says society loses more with all the people that get shut down and just don't talk any more. Admittedly that's a theoretical debate, but such is the nature of these things. Talking about theory, direct democracy was never a goal of the United States. In fact, there was a lot done to prevent it. Twitter closing the feedback loop and making things more direct and immediate would be considered a horrible step backwards by most of the people who understood why the country was structured the way it was. If we've got to learn that lesson again, I guess that's the way goes.