>Is it just that whole notion that fathers who are involved with their children are not masculine? I have never heard that. I have heard lots of women gussing

>Is it just that whole notion that fathers who are involved with their children are not masculine? I have never heard that. I have heard lots of women gussing over men playing with kids though. I can maybe think these dads would be called "soft", because they are in a slow, not so powerful bike, whereas others are in strong, big fast cars, but even that is pretty stupid.