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I've been trying to receive "euthanasia" for myself. I suffer gender dysphoria. I think it's a shame how society can discriminate a person with an illness compa

I've been trying to receive "euthanasia" for myself. I suffer gender dysphoria. I think it's a shame how society can discriminate a person with an illness compared to another group with a different illness; when it comes to receiving what is considered a medical treatment for ending pain. The terminology for who qualifies & receives euthanasia is flexible in the jurisdictions that offer it by terminology but people will warp their own perception around who they view should have a right to qualify to die by personal opinions without understanding the pain of another. Society doesn't help some people and euthanasia can be a real solution for the current system until real help evolves; where euthanasia can be less thought about.

hartator 8y ago
I am sorry about that that. Feel free to reach me via PM (email in profile) if you want someone to talk to.
ashleyn 8y ago
It's far beter to consider current, effective treatments for this instead of considering euthanasia for it.
- intralizee 8y ago
  I'm on the current medical treatment I can afford. I wouldn't combine the word effective in that sentence. I've given it enough time to decide the treatment is unacceptable in making the pain be bearable. I'm at a point where it's euthanasia or suicide and which is the case for people seeking euthanasia. Some people have more pain than others with the same illness classification and depending on how life transpired. It shouldn't be an outsider limiting others scenario.
  - md224 8y ago
    I’m sorry you’re going through so much suffering. I personally don’t think anyone experiencing mental anguish should commit suicide before giving “drugs of abuse” a try. These drugs are so popular and addictive precisely because they’re so good at making you feel better. They’re a last resort, but I think they’re a better last resort than suicide. Here’s a link to a recent Reddit comment where I discussed this idea, along with suggestions of drugs to try: https://www.reddit.com/r/depressionregimens/comments/8wcv8f/comment/e1uym6u https://www.reddit.com/r/depressionregimens/comments/8wcv8f/...
  - alberthartman 8y ago
    Have you tried psychedelics? They’ve been reported as being effective at setting the world straight for many people. Probably need to do a good deal of research first, and conventional medical information sources will probably be unhelpful.
eadmund 8y ago
> I've been trying to receive "euthanasia" for myself. I suffer gender dysphoria. I'm sorry to read that you want to die, but I hope very much that you continue to fail. You are valuable, you make the world better by being in it and it will be worse when you do die. Yes, you have a mental condition, but that is no reason to hate yourself: you deserve love, not hate. Life is tough for everyone, some more than others, but it's also full of joy & beauty, and you're part of that joy & beauty.
albertgoeswoof 8y ago
I am not sure if this will help you, but to bring some perspective, this is very much a rational position on public health. Given that gender dysphoria is not actually a terminal illness it is probably not a good idea to offer euthanasia for it - there is a not-insignificant chance you will fully recover. Suicide rates are much lower in areas where people have less access to things that can end their life (e.g. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/magazine/guns-and-suicide/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/magazine/guns-and-suicide/), statistically speaking many people do make it through. By offering euthanasia to people who would otherwise survive, those people will lose their shot at life beyond their condition. Public health policy has to be driven from the net benefits to all and not at the individual case level.
- intralizee 8y ago
  Gender dysphoria is an actual terminal illness depending on the person. Many people end up dead because of it. My ability, desire, or whatever to eat diminished years ago because of it and my health continues to get poor with also lack of sleep. Similar to other illnesses where the body shuts down in the functions of having good health. I've been seeing several doctors for several years and continue to do so with trying to voice my right for euthanasia the past several months. Currently people take a diagnosis and have their opinion glazed over by success stories of people fitting the diagnosis. It's sad when people then refuse to acknowledge the ones who have a different reality with the same diagnosis. I think this happens a lot in the medical community.
  - sokoloff 8y ago
    > Gender dysphoria is an actual terminal illness depending on the person. Many people end up dead because of it. That doesn't seem to me to be a reasonable standard for medically-indicated euthanasia. Influenza meets that test more strongly. I do wish you the best in your future path, however long that may be.
    - intralizee 8y ago
      To you what would make Gender Dysphoria a candidate for Euthanasia? The illness you listed is the same to some with Gender Dysphoria. I’ve known people with my illness who have committed suicide and they all communicated it’s like living in hell and feeling robbed of life. I think it comes down to your own perception being discriminatory based on your own personal opinion with disregarding pain not experienced of a certain life with an illness that people can’t imagine because it’s psychological.

hartator 8y ago

I am sorry about that that. Feel free to reach me via PM (email in profile) if you want someone to talk to.

ashleyn 8y ago

It's far beter to consider current, effective treatments for this instead of considering euthanasia for it.

intralizee 8y ago
I'm on the current medical treatment I can afford. I wouldn't combine the word effective in that sentence. I've given it enough time to decide the treatment is unacceptable in making the pain be bearable. I'm at a point where it's euthanasia or suicide and which is the case for people seeking euthanasia. Some people have more pain than others with the same illness classification and depending on how life transpired. It shouldn't be an outsider limiting others scenario.
- md224 8y ago
  I’m sorry you’re going through so much suffering. I personally don’t think anyone experiencing mental anguish should commit suicide before giving “drugs of abuse” a try. These drugs are so popular and addictive precisely because they’re so good at making you feel better. They’re a last resort, but I think they’re a better last resort than suicide. Here’s a link to a recent Reddit comment where I discussed this idea, along with suggestions of drugs to try: https://www.reddit.com/r/depressionregimens/comments/8wcv8f/comment/e1uym6u https://www.reddit.com/r/depressionregimens/comments/8wcv8f/...
- alberthartman 8y ago
  Have you tried psychedelics? They’ve been reported as being effective at setting the world straight for many people. Probably need to do a good deal of research first, and conventional medical information sources will probably be unhelpful.

eadmund 8y ago

> I've been trying to receive "euthanasia" for myself. I suffer gender dysphoria. I'm sorry to read that you want to die, but I hope very much that you continue to fail. You are valuable, you make the world better by being in it and it will be worse when you do die. Yes, you have a mental condition, but that is no reason to hate yourself: you deserve love, not hate. Life is tough for everyone, some more than others, but it's also full of joy & beauty, and you're part of that joy & beauty.

albertgoeswoof 8y ago

I am not sure if this will help you, but to bring some perspective, this is very much a rational position on public health. Given that gender dysphoria is not actually a terminal illness it is probably not a good idea to offer euthanasia for it - there is a not-insignificant chance you will fully recover. Suicide rates are much lower in areas where people have less access to things that can end their life (e.g. https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/magazine/guns-and-suicide/ https://www.hsph.harvard.edu/news/magazine/guns-and-suicide/), statistically speaking many people do make it through. By offering euthanasia to people who would otherwise survive, those people will lose their shot at life beyond their condition. Public health policy has to be driven from the net benefits to all and not at the individual case level.

intralizee 8y ago
Gender dysphoria is an actual terminal illness depending on the person. Many people end up dead because of it. My ability, desire, or whatever to eat diminished years ago because of it and my health continues to get poor with also lack of sleep. Similar to other illnesses where the body shuts down in the functions of having good health. I've been seeing several doctors for several years and continue to do so with trying to voice my right for euthanasia the past several months. Currently people take a diagnosis and have their opinion glazed over by success stories of people fitting the diagnosis. It's sad when people then refuse to acknowledge the ones who have a different reality with the same diagnosis. I think this happens a lot in the medical community.
- sokoloff 8y ago
  > Gender dysphoria is an actual terminal illness depending on the person. Many people end up dead because of it. That doesn't seem to me to be a reasonable standard for medically-indicated euthanasia. Influenza meets that test more strongly. I do wish you the best in your future path, however long that may be.
  - intralizee 8y ago
    To you what would make Gender Dysphoria a candidate for Euthanasia? The illness you listed is the same to some with Gender Dysphoria. I’ve known people with my illness who have committed suicide and they all communicated it’s like living in hell and feeling robbed of life. I think it comes down to your own perception being discriminatory based on your own personal opinion with disregarding pain not experienced of a certain life with an illness that people can’t imagine because it’s psychological.