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Germans won't learn from their past. Watching "the lives of others" doesn't mean anything to them. "Security" forces always want to shadow/spy on anyong and any
by HenryBemis 8y ago
Germans won't learn from their past. Watching "the lives of others" doesn't mean anything to them. "Security" forces always want to shadow/spy on anyong and anything "just in case". This is how Democracies fail. This is how humanity reverts to the age of "securitat".
German has one of the most elaborate spying-on-its-own-citizens dragnet around the world. This sting operations are just to bully/frighten anyone who dares not to bow their heads.
- skrause 8y ago> German has one of the most elaborate spying-on-its-own-citizens dragnet around the world. Citation needed. The amount of surveillance in Germany is much lower than e.g. the USA or UK.
- gant 8y agoLast I checked DE-CIX is still in a never ending legal battle with the BND and courts seem to consistently rule in the favor of the BND.
- solotronics 8y agothey are definitely part of the Five Eyes and as culpable as any of the others
- mkl 8y agoFive Eyes "is an intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes
- tedunangst 8y agoThe story that comes to mind for me: https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/02/german-police-can-now-use-spying-malware-to-monitor-suspects/ https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2016/02/german-police-ca... Although that's more targeted, less dragnet.
- musage 8y agoYet it's an American website where the discussion of such serious things is censored, too.
- dang 8y agoThis crosses into nationalistic flamewar. We don't want any of that here, and ban accounts that do it repeatedly, so please don't post like this again. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html