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I believe that intelligence is more than quantifiable. Von Neumann machines, no matter how complex, will never achieve intelligence. Again, to be completely cle

by User23 8y ago

I believe that intelligence is more than quantifiable. Von Neumann machines, no matter how complex, will never achieve intelligence. Again, to be completely clear, I’m not claiming machine intelligence is impossible, just that what we see presently isn’t it in any honest sense.

yorwba 8y ago
What do you even mean by "Von Neumann machines, no matter how complex, will never achieve intelligence."? If you mean machines that self-replicate, then there're plenty counterexamples around already (https://www.xkcd.com/387/ https://www.xkcd.com/387/). If you mean computers using the von Neumann architecture, then that's weirdly specific, since modern computers are at best vaguely inspired by that model, and GPUs in particular work very differently.
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- crististm 8y ago
  How is self-replication a requirement for intelligence?
  - User23 8y ago
    I charitably assume he's drawing from the fact that all true intelligences we can observe are capable of self-replication.
    - pixl97 8y ago
      At one point that was true for 'entities that can perform addition'. I have a feeling your statement will not stand the test of time well at all.
- kyle-rb 8y ago
  You're using Von Neumann machine in the sense of a self-replicating machine. I think the commenter you're replying to meant Von Neumann architecture, which is the basic layout of a computer, and has nothing to do with self-replication. See this Wikipedia disambiguation page: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann_machine https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Von_Neumann_machine
  - User23 8y ago
    Thanks for clarifying. The man was such a polymath and has made so many contributions I should have been more clear myself.