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> As I mentioned, even if you don’t get the job or lose the job, you’re still ahead of not trying. I fail to see how poisoning your own reputation comes out as

> As I mentioned, even if you don’t get the job or lose the job, you’re still ahead of not trying. I fail to see how poisoning your own reputation comes out as "still ahead"; that is absolutely guaranteed to get your résumé silently discarded. The tech community isn't that big, even in the tech hubs, and word does eventually get around both among engineers and recruiters.

toomuchtodo 8y ago
Rumors are a quick way to get sued. Are you ready to pay a settlement as an employer because someone’s resume has an inaccuracy on it? Sometimes there are benefits of living in a litigious society when it works in your favor.
- skookumchuck 8y ago
  You won't have a case if you're fired for lying on your resume. Lying about your education is not merely an "inaccuracy".
  - toomuchtodo 8y ago
    I’ve seen lesser cases win. You’d be surprised. Your tight knit industry community isn’t the general public.
    - ThrowawayR2 8y ago
      > I’ve seen lesser cases win. You’d be surprised. Your tight knit industry community isn’t the general public. [citation needed] Court cases are a matter of public record and, given your, ahem, open advocacy of falsehoods, it's unclear why we should believe your unsupported assertion.
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skookumchuck 8y ago
True that. The community I work with all know each other, and one's reputation is paramount. If anyone found out I lied about my degree, I'd be finished. I wouldn't work with a cheat, either.
rapind 8y ago
I’m not advocating lying, but there’s no way this comes up, at least not at startups. Do you think we sit at the bar and discuss potential hires university degrees? If someone told me “watch out man, Stu lied about his uni education” my response is likely to be, “why would you tell me that and why would you think I cared?”. The gabber is going to look worse than the candidate by a long shot. Careful who you gab about and who you gab to.
- skookumchuck 8y ago
  Startups involve a lot of trust between the members of the initial group. I wouldn't have anything to do with trusting my future to a professional liar. It's like marrying someone who cheated on their spouse. They'll cheat on you, next.
  - rapind 8y ago
    I can see that I suppose. I'd avoid any negative conversation that named applicant's names with people external to the company though.

toomuchtodo 8y ago

Rumors are a quick way to get sued. Are you ready to pay a settlement as an employer because someone’s resume has an inaccuracy on it? Sometimes there are benefits of living in a litigious society when it works in your favor.

skookumchuck 8y ago
You won't have a case if you're fired for lying on your resume. Lying about your education is not merely an "inaccuracy".
- toomuchtodo 8y ago
  I’ve seen lesser cases win. You’d be surprised. Your tight knit industry community isn’t the general public.
  - ThrowawayR2 8y ago
    > I’ve seen lesser cases win. You’d be surprised. Your tight knit industry community isn’t the general public. [citation needed] Court cases are a matter of public record and, given your, ahem, open advocacy of falsehoods, it's unclear why we should believe your unsupported assertion.
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skookumchuck 8y ago

True that. The community I work with all know each other, and one's reputation is paramount. If anyone found out I lied about my degree, I'd be finished. I wouldn't work with a cheat, either.

rapind 8y ago

I’m not advocating lying, but there’s no way this comes up, at least not at startups. Do you think we sit at the bar and discuss potential hires university degrees? If someone told me “watch out man, Stu lied about his uni education” my response is likely to be, “why would you tell me that and why would you think I cared?”. The gabber is going to look worse than the candidate by a long shot. Careful who you gab about and who you gab to.

skookumchuck 8y ago
Startups involve a lot of trust between the members of the initial group. I wouldn't have anything to do with trusting my future to a professional liar. It's like marrying someone who cheated on their spouse. They'll cheat on you, next.
- rapind 8y ago
  I can see that I suppose. I'd avoid any negative conversation that named applicant's names with people external to the company though.