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I see how a world with out DST would be simpler, but I have no strong feelings on the subject. Regardless, it would take decades before other countries outside

by jopsen 8y ago

I see how a world with out DST would be simpler, but I have no strong feelings on the subject. Regardless, it would take decades before other countries outside the EU gets rid of DST. So I have to ask, is this really a fight worth having?

Freak_NL 8y ago
It's annoying enough as it is within a single time zone. So yeah, getting rid of it has my vote.
em500 8y ago
“Other countries outside the EU” means USA and a handful of other countries. The vast majority of the world outside the EU never had DST or already got rid of it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_by_country https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_by_coun...
jnurmine 8y ago
Yes, this is definitely a fight worth fighting. It is completely nonsensical, not to mention unhealthy, both physically and mentally, to suddenly hard-reset the body clock plus/minus one hour on a permanent basis, especially if one lives up north. One day you sleep an hour less and it is just as dark and cold outside. What for? Actually, what are the arguments FOR "daylight saving time"? I personally hope they will fast-track this and get rid of DST as fast as possible!
- ac29 8y ago
  The argument for DST is that it keeps sunrise approximately the same time throughout the year. Take a look at the chart here for an example: https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/san-francisco https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/san-francisco Without DST, twilight would be about 430AM during the longest days of Summer, which harms sleep (at least it does for me).
  - jnurmine 8y ago
    Sunrise even with DST in Stockholm is now 0345 (AM). And the Sun sets at about 2200 (10 PM). DST is just an annoyance at best. I don't know if people do that in US but around here one can buy light blocking curtains to make the room(s) completely dark. I have no trouble sleeping in general when it's brighter but do sleep much better with the curtains.
- jopsen 8y ago
  I could honestly care less :) > ... not to mention unhealthy, both physically and mentally, to suddenly hard-reset the body clock plus/minus one hour... I hope you're not planning to do any jet travel. Lots of people have 5-9 hours of jetlag multiple times a year, and they seem to living just fine :)

by jopsen 8y ago

Freak_NL 8y ago

It's annoying enough as it is within a single time zone. So yeah, getting rid of it has my vote.

em500 8y ago

“Other countries outside the EU” means USA and a handful of other countries. The vast majority of the world outside the EU never had DST or already got rid of it: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_by_country https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_by_coun...

jnurmine 8y ago

Yes, this is definitely a fight worth fighting. It is completely nonsensical, not to mention unhealthy, both physically and mentally, to suddenly hard-reset the body clock plus/minus one hour on a permanent basis, especially if one lives up north. One day you sleep an hour less and it is just as dark and cold outside. What for? Actually, what are the arguments FOR "daylight saving time"? I personally hope they will fast-track this and get rid of DST as fast as possible!

ac29 8y ago
The argument for DST is that it keeps sunrise approximately the same time throughout the year. Take a look at the chart here for an example: https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/san-francisco https://www.timeanddate.com/sun/usa/san-francisco Without DST, twilight would be about 430AM during the longest days of Summer, which harms sleep (at least it does for me).
- jnurmine 8y ago
  Sunrise even with DST in Stockholm is now 0345 (AM). And the Sun sets at about 2200 (10 PM). DST is just an annoyance at best. I don't know if people do that in US but around here one can buy light blocking curtains to make the room(s) completely dark. I have no trouble sleeping in general when it's brighter but do sleep much better with the curtains.
jopsen 8y ago
I could honestly care less :) > ... not to mention unhealthy, both physically and mentally, to suddenly hard-reset the body clock plus/minus one hour... I hope you're not planning to do any jet travel. Lots of people have 5-9 hours of jetlag multiple times a year, and they seem to living just fine :)