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Isn't it hypocritical to annoy people into doing what you want them to do?

by cm2012 8y ago

arthev 8y ago
But the adblock-blockers requesting/requiring you to unblock are trying to annoy people into doing what they want as well :)
- yellowapple 8y ago
  The difference, of course, being that an ad-blocker can block those :)
  - mirimir 8y ago
    Ah, but ad-blockers will block this as well :)
genericid 8y ago
If someone decides against using an ad blocker, they can't mind being annoyed that much.
- paulcole 8y ago
  I don't use an adblocker because I don't like feeling like I'm taking something I'm not entitled to. I don't like most of the ads I see, but I understand why they're there and that they're the reason why I don't have to get out my credit card to visit the sites I like. Edit: Didn't realize that not being offended by ads was such a controversial opinion here.
  - door3 8y ago
    > I don't use an adblocker because I don't like feeling like I'm taking something I'm not entitled to. ads are bad and pollute whatever space they are in. the internet would be much better without them. i would describe it as unethical to force someone to view an advertisement.
  - nyolfen 8y ago
    that's interesting, i do use an adblocker because i don't like companies with business models oriented on surveillance and building profiles of my behavior across the internet that they're not entitled to
    - paulcole 8y ago
      So it's OK to take the product of a business if you don't like their business model? Why not just avoid visiting the sites you find so distasteful?
      - warent 8y ago
        Because businesses conform to customer wants/needs, not vice-versa.
        cm2012 8y ago
        Customer: "I want a hamburger for free. Give it to me for free or I'll just take it and walk away without paying anyway." Business: "No. It's $2. Please pay for the burger" Customer: "Why aren't you conforming to my needs?!"
        Endy 8y ago
        There's a difference here - the transaction of physical goods. There's also a big difference between, "You offered me a burger, you have signs saying I could get burgers here, and there are large groups that index you as the best burger." "That was last week. Now you don't get to know about the burger until you pay $2."
        cm2012 8y ago
        On a developer forum devoted to software companies, the main argument is that physical products are by nature more valuable than non-physical products. (As opposed to the argument that non-physical products are easier to take and use without permission, regardless of effort put into it or value extracted).
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  - kjeetgill 8y ago
    I want to jump in and have your back on this one. I don't think it's a big deal to block ads but I support your sentiment: Not blocking ads is a respectful nod to the site owners who put them there. Sure, some sites I visit may feel undeserving but there is plenty of content I do respect (web comics, youtube channels, HN, etc.). I don't think anyone should feel super obligated but I get why you and others do. Edit: When I posted this the parent was downvoted to grey.

Isn't it hypocritical to annoy people into doing what you want them to do?

by cm2012 8y ago

Isn't it hypocritical to annoy people into doing what you want them to do?

But the adblock-blockers requesting/requiring you to unblock are trying to annoy people into doing what they want as well :)

yellowapple 8y ago
The difference, of course, being that an ad-blocker can block those :)
- mirimir 8y ago
  Ah, but ad-blockers will block this as well :)

genericid 8y ago

If someone decides against using an ad blocker, they can't mind being annoyed that much.

paulcole 8y ago
I don't use an adblocker because I don't like feeling like I'm taking something I'm not entitled to. I don't like most of the ads I see, but I understand why they're there and that they're the reason why I don't have to get out my credit card to visit the sites I like. Edit: Didn't realize that not being offended by ads was such a controversial opinion here.
- door3 8y ago
  > I don't use an adblocker because I don't like feeling like I'm taking something I'm not entitled to. ads are bad and pollute whatever space they are in. the internet would be much better without them. i would describe it as unethical to force someone to view an advertisement.
- nyolfen 8y ago
  that's interesting, i do use an adblocker because i don't like companies with business models oriented on surveillance and building profiles of my behavior across the internet that they're not entitled to
  - paulcole 8y ago
    So it's OK to take the product of a business if you don't like their business model? Why not just avoid visiting the sites you find so distasteful?
    - warent 8y ago
      Because businesses conform to customer wants/needs, not vice-versa.
      - cm2012 8y ago
        Customer: "I want a hamburger for free. Give it to me for free or I'll just take it and walk away without paying anyway." Business: "No. It's $2. Please pay for the burger" Customer: "Why aren't you conforming to my needs?!"
        Endy 8y ago
        There's a difference here - the transaction of physical goods. There's also a big difference between, "You offered me a burger, you have signs saying I could get burgers here, and there are large groups that index you as the best burger." "That was last week. Now you don't get to know about the burger until you pay $2."
        cm2012 8y ago
        On a developer forum devoted to software companies, the main argument is that physical products are by nature more valuable than non-physical products. (As opposed to the argument that non-physical products are easier to take and use without permission, regardless of effort put into it or value extracted).
- deleted 8y ago
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- kjeetgill 8y ago
  I want to jump in and have your back on this one. I don't think it's a big deal to block ads but I support your sentiment: Not blocking ads is a respectful nod to the site owners who put them there. Sure, some sites I visit may feel undeserving but there is plenty of content I do respect (web comics, youtube channels, HN, etc.). I don't think anyone should feel super obligated but I get why you and others do. Edit: When I posted this the parent was downvoted to grey.